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  • F Freya

    Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

    Any info would be very much appreciated

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    Jim Eshelman
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    The Denning and Phillips book is phenomenal.

    www.amazon.com/Llewellyn-Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Llewelyn/dp/0875421903/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366154520&sr=8-1-fkmr0

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    • F Freya

      Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

      Any info would be very much appreciated

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      Freya
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      Thank you very much Jim. For some reason many people think that Dion Fortune is the only authority on the subject. Whilst I think that her book is very informative, it is my opinion that it lacks more practical tecniques of psychic self defence (i.e. I already knew how to bless water and salt).

      In her book she describes pentagrams as an effective symbol to ward off evil. if I am not mistaken Abramelin says that unless the person drawing pentagrams is very skilled, the symbol is quite worthless (I may remember incorrectly). If this is true drawing pentagrams on the door to protect the house gives only a false sense of protection. What is your opinion on the subject?

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      • F Freya

        Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

        Any info would be very much appreciated

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        Jim Eshelman
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        Drawing pentagrams on a door is, in itself, insufficient. However, that doesn't mean it's not a valid technique. Fortune's book was a standard for over half a century, and still has much to teach.

        The book I recommended simply goes much further.

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        • F Freya

          Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

          Any info would be very much appreciated

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          Freya
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          @Jim Eshelman said

          "Drawing pentagrams on a door is, in itself, insufficient. However, that doesn't mean it's not a valid technique. Fortune's book was a standard for over half a century, and still has much to teach.

          The book I recommended simply goes much further."

          Would the book you recommend explain how to render pentagrams a sufficient method of protection?

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          • F Freya

            Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

            Any info would be very much appreciated

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            Jason R
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            @Freya said

            "Thank you very much Jim. For some reason many people think that Dion Fortune is the only authority on the subject. Whilst I think that her book is very informative, it is my opinion that it lacks more practical tecniques of psychic self defence (i.e. I already knew how to bless water and salt).

            In her book she describes pentagrams as an effective symbol to ward off evil. if I am not mistaken Abramelin says that unless the person drawing pentagrams is very skilled, the symbol is quite worthless (I may remember incorrectly). If this is true drawing pentagrams on the door to protect the house gives only a false sense of protection. What is your opinion on the subject?"

            I've personally never heard of this, unless what is meant is that they have a complete ignorance of what that symbol means. Some, of course view the pentagram as a symbol of Satan, which if used as a pertection with this idea in mind, may weaken it. However, if you know enough about the true symbolism behind it, it is effective - and I'm betting that the symbol itself holds power when used regardless. Do you already know about the LBRP? If you read Dion Fortune, then I'm guessing you do. If not, then that is a great way to begin. There is a lot of information available on this nice banishing ritual.

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            • F Freya

              Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

              Any info would be very much appreciated

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              Faust
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              @Freya said

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              @Jim Eshelman said
              "Drawing pentagrams on a door is, in itself, insufficient. However, that doesn't mean it's not a valid technique. Fortune's book was a standard for over half a century, and still has much to teach.

              The book I recommended simply goes much further."

              Would the book you recommend explain how to render pentagrams a sufficient method of protection?"

              No pentagram will be enough if you keep your aura receptive to the invader. It is like building a huge wall around your house and leaving the door unlocked.
              Psychological hygiene is a very important part.

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              • F Freya

                Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                Any info would be very much appreciated

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                Freya
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                Yes, I know about the ritual you mention but I was told that it has the propensity to "light up" your presentce in the astral. I was told is good when performing other rituals afterwards, but not as a protection ritual on its own. I was told that the Rose cross ritual is the one to use......is this view correct?

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                • F Freya

                  Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                  Any info would be very much appreciated

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  @Freya said

                  "Yes, I know about the ritual you mention but I was told that it has the propensity to "light up" your presentce in the astral. I was told is good when performing other rituals afterwards, but not as a protection ritual on its own. I was told that the Rose cross ritual is the one to use......is this view correct?"

                  Yes it does. Exactly right. It takes you out of hiding. And you need to live your life visible, lit up, vibrant, etc.

                  If you only perform it occasionally, you only light yourself up but don't have the strength and habituated patterns that make it powerful. This is why the advice is to perform it daily, as a way of life.

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                  • F Freya

                    Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                    Any info would be very much appreciated

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                    Freya
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                    thank Jim. Would it be fair to assume that the Lesser banishing ritual only attracts unwanted attention at the beginning, and not when it is done habitually? How about doing the rose cross ritual every day? What effects will that ritual have?

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                    • F Freya

                      Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                      Any info would be very much appreciated

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      It ALWAYS attracts attention - over the year's, you mature into a blazing Sun illuminating the in er worlds. But you also become a tough mother-fucker, on course and doing your Will, so that doesn't matter.

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                      • F Freya

                        Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                        Any info would be very much appreciated

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                        Vadox
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                        Well i have never learned to defend myself and i think i shouldnt 😆

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                        • F Freya

                          Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                          Any info would be very much appreciated

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                          Freya
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                          If I do both at the beginning, will the cancel each other out?

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                          • F Freya

                            Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                            Any info would be very much appreciated

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                            Jim Eshelman
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                            @Freya said

                            "If I do both at the beginning, will the cancel each other out?"

                            Both what? At the beginning of what?

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                            • F Freya

                              Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                              Any info would be very much appreciated

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                              Los
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                              @Jim Eshelman said

                              "It ALWAYS attracts attention - over the year's, you mature into a blazing Sun illuminating the in er worlds."

                              And on what grounds do you make this claim? Or, in fact, any of the claims you've made on this thread?

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                              • F Freya

                                Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                Freya
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                                Both rituals, the lesser banishing ritual first and then the rose cross.

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                                • F Freya

                                  Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                  Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                  Jim Eshelman
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                                  @Freya said

                                  "Both rituals, the lesser banishing ritual first and then the rose cross."

                                  I wouldn't mix them unless there were an extraordinary reason.

                                  The RC ritual is useful for situations where U want to hide in some sense, or have a withdrawn and undisturbed space as for very still meditation. This is useful sometimes, but no way to live one's life.

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                                  • F Freya

                                    Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                    Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                    Jim Eshelman
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                                    @Los said

                                    "
                                    @Jim Eshelman said
                                    "It ALWAYS attracts attention - over the year's, you mature into a blazing Sun illuminating the in er worlds."

                                    And on what grounds do you make this claim? Or, in fact, any of the claims you've made on this thread?"

                                    1. Experience
                                    2. Observation
                                    3. Confirming feedback from others

                                    It's basically the core method of A.'.A.'.:

                                    1. Due something
                                    2. Observe & record
                                    3. Assess & draw conclusions based primarily on personal experiencs
                                      Etc.
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                                    • F Freya

                                      Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                      Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                      Faust
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                                      I just found this while doing a research. Magnificent expert opinion on the subject of “not believing at empirical evidence”.

                                      "Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials."

                                      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16602356

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                                      • F Freya

                                        Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                        Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                        Los
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                                        @Jim Eshelman said

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                                        @Los said
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                                        @Jim Eshelman said
                                        "It ALWAYS attracts attention - over the year's, you mature into a blazing Sun illuminating the in er worlds."

                                        And on what grounds do you make this claim? Or, in fact, any of the claims you've made on this thread?"

                                        1. Experience
                                        2. Observation"

                                        No amount of pretending that you're a "blazing Sun illuminating the inner worlds" demonstrates that there are inner worlds on which anything like this is happening. Unless by "inner worlds," you simply mean "make believe," which I suspect you do not.

                                        "3. Confirming feedback from others"

                                        And no matter how many other people also pretend that they're a "blazing Sun illuminating the inner worlds," this still doesn't demosntrate that there are inner worlds or anything remotely like this.

                                        It's the same with all the rest of these claims. There's no such thing as "psychic attack," so the OP can go ahead and draw any symbols you want over anything you want. The result will be the same.

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                                        • F Freya

                                          Does anyone know a good source of information about psychic self defence, apart from Dion Fortune's book?

                                          Any info would be very much appreciated

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                                          Jim Eshelman
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                                          And that's not what I said. You're characterizing it as something different than I said or meant.

                                          We teach magick. That's basic to what we do, and basic to what this forum is about. I was speaking on the topic of magick to those involved in its practice, most likely in language useful to them in that practice.

                                          Please don't start derailing every conversation on the forum. We don't exist only to give you a platform for your antimetaphysical views. We have our on-going, day-to-day work to handle around here as well.

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