Using black magick to cross the abyss
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A counter intuitive idea... using black magick to cross the abyss.
As far as the intent is crossing the abyss, couldnt it work theorically?
If i worship money and muscles and cars and women, place them as supernals on the tree of life, keep on assuming harpocrates form every morning, and get not distracted by 333, couldnt it work?
What made me think about this is Crowley's idea(i dont remember the liber nor name of the technique) of if, for instance, you need 500 dollars and have only 50 left, the best thing to do can be to spend those 50 on champagne without the lust of results. Counter intuitive magick. It reminds me the tao te king principles.
Have you other examples or ideas of such counter intuitive magick?
I was listening to an Arnaud Desjardins(yogi) interview, and he had such experiences of counter intuitive methods with a japanese master(buddhist if i remember right). The japanese master did everything to break all Arnaud's concepts and beliefs of "truths", especially concerning initiation... He took him to weird sex houses at night, acted always unpredictively, and stuff. This master was also very high grade in several martial arts. So, clearly advanced in black magick lol.
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@Frater Horus said
"A counter intuitive idea... using black magick to cross the abyss."
Yes. Crossing the Abyss is White.
"As far as the intent is crossing the abyss, couldnt it work theorically?"
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"If i worship money and muscles and cars and women, place them as supernals on the tree of life, keep on assuming harpocrates form every morning, and get not distracted by 333, couldnt it work?"
Uh...
I don't know what the rest of your post has to do with the Abyss. Wait a minute...
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The idea is to enhance unbalance to create a maximum opposite reaction. Instead of balancing, you increase the unbalance so it "whips" back. Here it would be applied vertically, like on a trampoline. You jump on the black magick trampoline, and it whips you straight up in the air and through the abyss if you have enough momentum.
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Yes indeed ! The idea more precisely would be to do it when you're actually ready, as a 7=4... Not as a method from the start. Especially as it would be not counter intuitive, as the beginner actually still is heavily attracted by black magick.
But if as an Exemptus you do exactly the opposite of what you've trained for whole lifetimes as a final step, that creates huge magick doesnt it? It could be dangerous of course.
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@Frater Horus said
"The idea more precisely would be to do it when you're actually ready, as a 7=4..."
... Obviously.
"Especially as it would be not counter intuitive, as the beginner actually still is heavily attracted by black magick."
Not necessarily. (Also, you use the word "still" like being "heavily attracted by black magick" is a natural condition on the first place.)
"But if as an Exemptus you do exactly the opposite of what you've trained for whole lifetimes as a final step, that creates huge magick doesnt it? It could be dangerous of course."
... I think that part of the Path is more mysticism than magick. Anyway, too theoretical (and useless), only an Exempt Adept would be in place of knowing that. (Of course, I can probably guess what his opinion would be.
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@Frater Horus said
"If i worship money and muscles and cars and women, place them as supernals on the tree of life, keep on assuming harpocrates form every morning, and get not distracted by 333, couldnt it work?"
But most of what you mention IS Choronzon.
Now, your instinct about counterintuitive approaches is correct. Totally sound. It's a paradox, though, that if you're going to break all the rules, you need to do it the right way. ;
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@Frater Horus said
"The idea more precisely would be to do it when you're actually ready, as a 7=4... Not as a method from the start. Especially as it would be not counter intuitive, as the beginner actually still is heavily attracted by black magick.
"It seems to me that you have to be a 7=4 before you're in any place to know what would be counterintuitive to a 7=4 <vbg>.
"But if as an Exemptus you do exactly the opposite of what you've trained for whole lifetimes as a final step, that creates huge magick doesnt it? It could be dangerous of course."
If your an Adeptus Exemptus, and actively doing the work of an Adeptus Exemptus, you'll find your way; or, rather, the Angel will lead you precisely into the right way.