College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

"With Thelemic terms, I guess I'm asking when you are addressing Adonai vs. Nuit, and if you can even really get to the true Nuit without knowing Adonai first."

Liber NV allows you to experience and UNDERSTAND nuit. Nuit can only be known through deep meditation.

"On one hand, when I pray to God, I'm thinking of a Nuit-like concept. Praying to whatever force there might be out there, the Lord of the Universe type deal.
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Also Nuit is not a being, place or thing. So you cannot pray to Nuit .Having experienced or not experienced your K&C of your HGA is irrelevant. There is Nothing to pray to when you try to pray to Nuit.

27.Then the priest answered & said unto the Queen of Space, kissing her lovely brows, and the dew of her light bathing his whole body in a sweet-smelling perfume of sweat: O Nuit, continuous one of Heaven, let it be ever thus; that men speak not of Thee as One but as None; and let them speak not of thee at all, since thou art continuous!
-Liber AL; CH i

Basically of the three deities associated with each chapter of Liber AL, only one can be worshiped. The other 2 CANNOT be worshiped even if you think that you are worshiping them.

22.The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me. I am the visible object of worship; the others are secret; for the Beast & his Bride are they: and for the winners of the Ordeal x. What is this? Thou shalt know.
-Liber AL; CH iii

RaHoorKhuit IS the visible object of worship.

62.To Me do ye reverence! to me come ye through tribulation of ordeal, which is bliss.
-Liber AL; CH iii

There is nothing wrong with worship as long as it doesn't turn into obsession.

Love is the law, love under will.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I came to a realization about myself.
The pain one feels from Asana is the same as the pain one feels in ones life.
This pain eventually goes away.

"The many change and pass; the one remains".

Love is the law, love under will.

Daniel

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

@Froclown said

"There is no such thing as a current or a spiritual plane or a "Pure energy" or any of this bullshit.

There are Physical actions of matter, that is all. There is gravity, Electro-magnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces. These are all the "forces" that exist. Energy is an expression of the potential motion stored in a system of matter, due to the forces, and forces are merely a the properties of material particles in how they act upon other particles.

There is not the slightest evidence for the existence to such nonsense, outside of paranormal investigation experiments that have always been shown inconclusive often outright fraud and full of methodological errors. The Rhine institute has not found a single true and conclusive case of "ESP"."

Thats what they told Copernicus when he first tried to explain that the Earth revolved around the Sun

Reading what you post makes me confused as to why you are even on this site.

Love is the law, love under will.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

"where is your specific place here_and_now, frater? acknowledge that, and go from there!
that current you speak about is not something outside of yourself, not some abstract entity, a 'thing' that we should look out and search to find and etc...(whatever) "

I dont see the 93 current as abstract. I feel it constantly . It is a reality for me and it impacts my life.

I first felt this sensation two years after I started studying Thelema during my 1st Initiation. I have felt the 93 current constantly since.

I never felt I was special. I believe and know of many people who can "feel" the 93 current in their lives. I think this is just a natural consequence of a Thelemic Initiation created by a Magus and done by a true Adept who can channel the 93 current from the astral to the Aspirant.

This is what happened to me and I am sure happened to others. If we take just one step on this Path we will come to its end. This might take lifetimes, or just one lifetime. Either way there is a True momentum created once we align ourselves with the 93 current. This momentum is created by the 93 current.

This has just been my experience and the experience of others I know who blessed me by sharing their thoughts on this subject.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

@Dar said

"... and I suppose members of the A.'.A.'. can shoot lightning bolts out of their arses too? "

Hahaha:) how did you know?

But seriously, I don't think that's possible short of sticking an electrical wire down someones throat and flipping a switch:p I am not volunteering.

The Universe works Harmoniously. This harmony includes life, death, destruction, and formation. We can choose to fight this harmony or we can become a part of this dance.

The 93 current allows you to dance in step with the Universe. The trick is learning to listen and learning to submit to what the Universe tells you. If you choose the path of Balance via the 93 current you declare your willingness to be in balance with the Universe. The Universe will correct you if you sway from this path. If you listen you get back to the business of the Great Work. If you ignore the Universe, the corrections get more severe. We only need to listen and trust. If you believe this there is no longer a need to fear any action you might do. If you do something wrong, the Universe will tell you. You are free to do your True Will;)

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I just read all these post and I am going to say whats on my mind. I am not going to quote anyone. I hope this is not a problem.

There is such a thing as the 93 current. Once you experience it you cannot mistake anything else for the 93 current. It has a very distinct "feel" or "taste" .

The 93 current emanates from the Spiritual plane. The Spiritual plane is the A.'.A.'. (The Spiritual plane is pure energy. There is no form and there is no difference made between anything.) So the 93 current comes from the A.'.A.'..

If we allow ourselves to move with the flow of the 93 current, then by definition we are doing our True Will.

Why?

The 93 current is a natural force of the Universe. If one is aligned with the motion of the Universe, one cannot be doing anything but one's True Will.

All of us are striving to be in harmony with the Universe even if we fight this Harmony.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

"Without taking direct practical actions, what you are doing is nothing more than praying, which is just wishing. And ritual for no other reason than to "Explore your spirituality", or "develop yourself", is nothing more than masturbation, unless you use those incites and skills to achieve practical results.
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I never said that;)

My Jewish Forefathers had a saying that is still said to this day. "Pray; then get up and do something about it".

I am actively involved with my Work that doesn't include praying

Love is the law, love under will.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

For me the Great Work is to do anything, even the smallest act to fight the sorrow I see when I close my eyes. There is so much pain and misery in this world. Souls are crying.

Since I feel the Motta A.'.A.'. is concerned with the welfare of mankind, my True Will and Great Work is the True Will and Great Work of the A.'.A.'. . Therefore my job is to cleave to the A.'.A.'. and let the energy of the A.'.A.'. do its work.

I really see it like this, but my truth is no ones but mine.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

"For one thing, it is five Vs, not four. For another, Crowley himself related it to the pentagram"

Oh...I feel like an idiot:p

Anyway, right after my post i realized that if you add them up you get 25 which is the same as Liber XXV. Liber XXV is used to banish the old Aeon influence and replaces it with the new Aeon influence.

So I got my 777 out and looked in the Sephper Sephiroth. 25 is a very interpreting number. For one it equals ChYVA which is the name of** The Beast** a name used by A.C. In addition 25 equals the Hebrew for Jehewid, God of Geburah of Binah also "To Break" and "Will be separated". In addition 25 equals the numbers of the Sephiroth of the middle pillar( 1+6+9+10).

So all this seems to imply the world banishing of the Old Aeon influences. This seems to be true to me based on what I know of A.C.

Now I need to go do Liber XXV and Liber Resh

Love is the law. love under will.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

@Zalthos said

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I've always taken the Five V's as analogous to the 5 points of the Pentragram, or Tetragrammaton (Elements/Four Powers of the Sphinx) with the inclusion of Spirit, in addition to the standard Latin rendering.

Love is the law, love under will."

I always think of Geburah when I see this. The 4 fives are maybe showing Geburah in action on the 4 planes of reality.

Or it could represent Force being applied in Chesed since there are 4 fives (4=Chesed). (5=Geburah) Geburah is the first manifestation of Force so it is pure Force from the perspective of those below the Abyss. So this could be Force in its balanced form below the Abyss.

I am not going to comment on pentagrams as I really don't think this has anything to do with pentagrams.

Love is the law, love under will.

Care Frater and Soror:

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

If we strain to hear
The Universe will push to speak.
Our desire to hear is a Lamp within infinite blackness.
It cannot be ignored.

Rainbows of energy swirl about
Like spiral dust devils.
This dance of Force and Form
Is a grand masterpiece of
Duality, Unity, and nothingness.

Ancestral Spirits stroke the arm
A comfort in these days of darkness.
Their comfort exposes the Wheel
And we know the continuity of our existence.

So we understand all must pass
All must end
In that Glorious And Terrible Day Of NOX.

On this day we are swallowed
in the Infinite Darkness
We find at our Center
And at the Center of Every Galaxy.
This is the Universal Cohesion that is the Mother Of Destruction.

This is My Goddess.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,
מוקדש

I thought some of you might like this :

Care Frater and Soror:

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Mercy begets Justice and Justice begets Mercy. Balance is an underlying Law of the Universe. Without balance there is stagnation; a lack of Motion. Mercy lacking Justice is cowardice. Justice lacking Mercy is cruelty.

Consider the implications of this Dichotomy. When mercy expresses itself on the physical plane, it invites or even produces Justice. The Law of Attraction pulls Justice into the influence of Mercy. Justice is a hawk circling above as a latent force prepared to defend Mercy. Mercy is a Dove the wings of the hawk shelter. If dove is threatened, Hawk responds bringing forth justice; an apocalypse of Wings, Claws and Beak.

The deeds of Hawk travel the streams, creeks,, rivers, and finally into the Great Sea; Ye even the Great Sea. We were known as Sohei in the time of Buddha. In the time of Moses we burned the Bush. During the time of Jesus we exiled Pontius Pilate to the city of Vienne on the Rhone in Gaul . Finally during the time of the Praised One we watched the Trade routes merge, we saw the flowering of the Cedar Tree.

Never was there a time the hawk did not circle. Those who would harm the Dove hesitate knowing this to be all truth.

The mighty determine the destiny of this planet. The Kings rule but only the few are blessed to know them. We joyously work the Will of our Goddess. She is all things but no things. How then can we know her?

There is no comfort comparable to that of the Goddess. It feels like the barely bearable hot bath water. The heat penetrates and relaxes. The mind drifts, the spirit flies. Oh what I would give for this to be permanent; an Eternity of comfort within Thy bussom. I would give my Life, my Love, my Soul for your eternal LOVE.

But is it not written that the length of my desire and the strength of my longing will make Death the greatest Crown of ALL?

IO PAN IO PAN IO PAN

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,
מוקדש

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Thank you I feel a very strong Kinship with Dion Fortune. I will get that book.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

This isnt grandstanding. I bared my Soul to all of you. You make your own decision about my charecter and honesty.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally'

thats the point;)

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I challenge you to think. I beg you to please go to my FaceBook page. Look at the photo folder intitled College. Look at what I accomplished since I committed my last Burglary.

I have been released from prison for a decade. I have no desire to committ any crime. Before my last incarceration my life was like this:

1985..13 years old......Alternate sentence for stealing: Sent to Koala Adolescent drug center, Indianapolis, Indiana.....6 months.
1986..14 years old...Alternite sentence for stealing. Sent to Grant Blackford Behavioral Center, Marion Indiana...6 months drug rehab.
1987..15 years old.....Mirage retreat Drug rehabilitation Center....Alternate sentencing for stealing....4.5 months
1988..16 years old....9 months....Indiana Boys school...Theft, Burglary.
1989..17 years old. Waiver of Juvinile rights...Tried as an Adult . Sentenced to Westville Correctional Center, Indiana .Escape with Bodily Injury. Sentence 6 years. complete 3 years with 1 year parole and be released on good behavior. 3.5 years served.
1994..Sentence 3 years, complete 1 year for good behavior and time cuts. Burgarly....1 year.
1995-2001..Sentence 16 years/do 8 for good behavior...6 years.

2001-2011....FREE

Is this enough proof to convince you I am onto something?

Love is the law, love under will.
Fraternally,

Before you Judge me realize I paid a terrible price for what I did.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I have nothing to be ashamed of. So look for yourself.

Daniel M. Reid Jr.

Indiana Department of Corrections

D.O.C. #885080

This is what happens when the Universe corrects you

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I understand why everyone is reacting the way they are.

The foundation of my understanding was laid during my 1st Initiation in 1993. My understanding and crystallization of this reality was developed in isolation surounded by extreme violence. So it doesn't surprise me that my understanding seems so alien. I come from a different world then most. That is just the reality of the situation.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternally,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

@Vlad said

"I'm sure you're listening, but I'm not the kind of guy who loves to argue, so I'll stop at this.

Also, I don't have any thoughts about the ego, because I hold no opinions about it. I can only make some derivations from what I've read, and a little bit from what I've experienced, nothing more, and that's not much."

Me too.

To be honest all this ruckus doesn't concern me. If I am doing something contrary to my True Will, the UNIVERSE will correct me. I know its hard to understand someone can REALLY believe this, but I do.

Love is the law, love under will.