Try Greek, ATV
Liber Resh vel Helios
Try Greek, ATV
Liber Resh vel Helios
Michael, thank you for your efforts to republish the trilogies. I'm glad I waited and did not get gouged by private sellers, although I did buy Nightside a few years back, at a fair price though and it was well worth it.
Some of Grants writing and technical Kung Foo could lead people to misunderstand his work. Of some of the critics I have read, it is clear they did not understand the content, and would rather assume it is nonsense than admit they don't get it. I found he was very clever in his books the way information is layered and positioned, which means it is necessary for me at least to reread items after some clarification in a later book. I suspect he engineered this type of structure, which permeates the books in a nonlinear and 'acausal' approach, not unlike being outside of time and space. It's clear he was quite brilliant and I have learned many things from his work and expect to continue to do so. I look forward to the publishing of the rest of the trilogies. Thanks again.
Think of a thing, manifest it, change the universe. Sounds like Magick to me
I hope its ok to bump this thread with a few questions on this subject rather than start a new thread. I don't claim to be crossing the Abyss, but there was an experience involving the Abyss and I could use some help.
I feel as if I was stumbling around in my Father's House and got wound up in the drapes and ripped them down like a bumbling fool. I applied the secret keys from Liber 963. My consciousness began a reversion through which seemed many web like tunnels that ultimately emptied into a great sea. At that point, there was no more 'me' - I experienced utter and complete unity and truth as my consciousness dispersed into the sea, and that one eternal moment was laid bare before me. The veil of the Priestess was gone. I saw clearly who is enthroned behind it.
I have experienced ego death before in dreams that carried on into waking consciousness. Those seemed to be partial ego death and I was able to rebuild the universe. This time is very different, I experienced full dispersion. There are many lingering and intense reverberations ongoing, including the mourning of my (former) self. I don't believe I am 'crossing the Abyss', but I do believe I had a direct experience with the veil down. Can someone offer some insight as to what may have happened, and what I should do now. This is very difficult (Truth) as I always knew intuitively but to experience it is completely different.
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For most people, this is a practical question - effective life management - not a human rights question, IMHO.
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Thats just it - 'life management' means hiding in this world if you are Thelema. While all the Abrahamic and Islam can excercise in society according to their faith. Thelemic lives should be a continuum, not a series of compartments.
I see that these days may come, but the Thelemic Monestaries will more resemble the great halls and cosmic temples of Atlantis rather than monks toiling on the side of a mountain.
93,
Typing the words 'recognized religion' left me with some reservations, mostly because it implies some form of acceptance by others, and all the baggage associated with the term 'religion'. I actually prefer the little sunshine comment of 'a system of spiritual philosophy'.
Anyway, since the current media magnetic storm, which I also loathe, is enough to jar this post out me which has been at front of mind for a while, I wonder if there are any thoughts on Thelemic acceptance, in those social contexts. For example, if I were to tell my employer, I need the first 2 weeks of April off work to celebrate the Holy Days, and this is a religious holiday so don't dock my pay or vacation or fire me, or, I choose to wear a rich head dress and other Thelemic wares to work as part of my 'religion'. And lets say I did these things in a corporate, or other 'mainstream' environment...how long would I have a job? A King may choose his garment as he will, except maybe if it put him on the breadline or the head block.
Not that these things are needed...at all. But still, why should I feel the need to be underground, or that I would be persecuted and penalized for practicing and expressing my 'religion' in the 'mainstream'?
Well, this watering hole seems a bit dry.
All I can say that this Tradition will carry on. As I have died and come back, and IAO is also forever. Thelema must sustain so I will give.
ShAGE
If you looked at a Tree in the river, what would it say?
As Jim said, NV = 56 = 11, a Key, unification of macro and micro, 5 and 6, as shown in Atu V. You should be able to pick up the formula by studying the other keys of the paths and Atu using the doctrine of sympathies and meditation. Also the tunnels Uriens and Naintial are 395 + 160 = 555, magical number of the Pentagram and HAD extended.
93,
Wonder if anyone can help provide a proper translation of this? I did some research but it is still not clear:
Strepetus: Wild din, noise, crash, poetic measured sound.
Cordis: Heart
Mussitatio: Hushed speech
Susurratio: Soft whispering, murmuring
Rugitus: Roared, bellowed, rumbled
I'm not quite sure how it all fits together into something coherent, at least from a translation perspective that is concise and accurate. I get the general theme, but if someone has some more insight I would appreciate it.
Not sure if this is the right forum category for this, but I came about it through Qabalah, so here it is.
Edit: seems perhaps a pattern of Tetragrammaton and VIAOV.
@AliceKnewI said
"Yes, but I get mixed up about whether to add up each word separately or the whole phrase or what. When do you stop adding the numbers together?
I worked on gematria a long while ago, and I don't remember now.
I also want more guidance on how to use the Sepher Sephiroth. I see I can look up a number and get a list of words, but then what?
I just feel so much a beginner and don't know what I am doing."
In the Holy Books, all modes contain information. Words and phrases. There are natural breaks, forwards and backwards, that can be identified with the Keys. Not just the gematria value, but the number of letters, number of words, etc, are ciphers that contain information. From there various squares, talismans, and geometric figures among other hidden arcana can be extracted. Always look for the Keys, i.e. Thelemic Holy Numbers. The Atu (also called Keys, for this very reason) can also be used to reveal knowledge hidden in the words and numbers of Class A Documents.
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@HRUMACHIS said
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@Angel of Death said
"Is that magic eight ball on your desk??? What is this supposed to be a picture of/for?"
Did you even bother to do the Qabalah of the Atu presented? Or do all yourThelemic answers come from magic 8 balls?"
Hey no need to get nasty.
I was genuiney curious why you posted this picture, nothing in the thread seemed to point to what the purpose of sharing your desk lamp, et al is about. And it does look like a magic eight ball on the blue cloth.
As for your questions.....
I have my own work to do, and yes I have and do work with the Atu in regards to my own life.
No, I do not own a magic eight ball anymore. I did when I was a child. My answers come from my heart.
I was trying to encourage you to share more about your picture,
I see now it simply was something you personal found relevance in and just wanted to share.
Nice furniture by the way, that desk is an Espicially fine piece.
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I apologize. I read it as a sarcastic comment. Thank you for clarifying. Given the nature of the material I was sharing, it is to be taken very seriously. I encourage others to check the math and explore the arrangement. These are not opinions or feelings, they are mathematical facts which are aligned with Thelemic Keys and symbolic interpretations that can be independently verified in the work of Therion and the Book of the Law.
Mr. Takamba, the only Qabalah I use is based strictly on the Atu. I use the Atu number, the Hebrew value, the paths, and the mystic numbers. Sometimes the tunnel numbers, and the Sefirot, when I am guided as such. And plain old arithmetic.
These Keys were a gift from my Angel in a fever dream, confirmed with the math and Keys. It is in my oath and Will to disclose part but not all of the equation, which by any measure I hope will further the grounding of the energies of the Aeon and Thelema on this planet.
The arrangement is an extract of a larger configuration which by Hebrew is allocated into 3 arrangements based on the Keys of 333, 666, and 496. This one is 496.
http://quantumconfigurations.com/images/496.jpg
496 is the sum of 0-31, thereby a power series of the Key.
496 is a composite of Keys, 418+78
496 symbolizes Leviathan, from the mouth of the Dragon rushed the infernal waters of Daath.
The total sum of Atu I and Atu x is 66, indicating the power of Jupiter reflected through Mercury to accomplish the Great Work.
The total sum of the arrangement is 696, meaning IPSOS and RPSTOVAL.
The numeration of the horizontal Atu is 474, the number of Daath, and spells QDOSh (by anagram), which has many related meanings.
The sum of QDOSh Path + Atu is 156
OSh = 370, creation as matter and spirit cancelling to 0 as unity, the Sabbatic Goat, and others.
Add the Moon and becomes 470, DVR DVRIM, eternity, cycle of cycles, aeon of aeons.
The Empress completes Daath as 474.
The number 496 is a very important number in superstring theory. In 1984, Michael Green and John H. Schwarz realized that one of the necessary conditions for a superstring theory to make sense is that the dimension of the gauge group of type I string theory must be 496. The group is therefore SO(32). Their discovery started the first superstring revolution. It was realized in 1985 that the heterotic string can admit another possible gauge group, namely E8 x E8.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/496_(number
There are many other Keys in this arrangement. The remaining 16 Atu are divided into 9 cards whose Hebrew sum is 333 and Hebrew plus Atu is 418. The remaining 7 numerate to 666.
The full arrangement in the grouping of Keys 9 (333), 6 (496) and 7 (666) form the sigil of Neptune.
@Angel of Death said
"Is that magic eight ball on your desk??? What is this supposed to be a picture of/for?"
Did you even bother to do the Qabalah of the Atu presented? Or do all yourThelemic answers come from magic 8 balls?
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@Joshua said
"By keys you mean 93 , HADIT, NUIT, 418, 56 etc or is their a specific document you're referencing ?"
One of the most powerful arcana left by The Great Beast aside from the Holy Books is this Qabalistic Key. There are other Keys that are not there, but if you solve for these, you will find them.
@Joshua said
"I guess I tend to end up contemplating whether I'm searching for some sort of secular/omnipotent knowledge that would be accessible to all, or if I'm literally amplifying my own insanity in the sense that my mind is altering reality and I am utterly alone in my understandings."
That's what the Thelemic Keys are for. Without the Keys, it is pure chaos, and likely madness is the end result. Apply the Keys, and unseal the truth.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Or just use 776 1/2 where these are all sorted out correctly. "
I haven't bought that book yet, but based on other things I've read, you should buy it for other reasons. As far as tables of correspondence, you should do the G.'.D.'. thing and sort it out for yourself and add to it as your grow. That is, do as i have done (not just as i have said) and have a composition book with your own corrected tables.
But still, we should buy Jim's book."
Quite right on the method. I have many journals filled, with many more to fill, be it the Will of the Eternal n(O)ne. The best library is full of books you write yourself. Aspirants will need a good supply of journals, they can be inexpensive. Or practice the ancient art of bookmaking and make the journals with your own hands. Number the pages, and leave room for a table of contents at the beginning, and a numbers and term index at the end. Fill in the content and update the contents and indexes accordingly as you do the Work. The Work should be neat and orderly, not haphazard and scrawled about. A regular pen and a fine tip pen are useful for writing and making footnotes with the fine tip. Label each journal, maybe with a number or some other description, as you will want to find these quickly and possibly reference them in other journals. Have some liquid paper on hand, mistakes will happen, and should be corrected but in an orderly way. A ruler is handy for making tables and squares and symbols. Jim's book is a fine reference book, but the best books are the ones you write. Besides, a day may come when we can't google our arcana or order books and need to do the Work the old fashioned way by necessity.
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@Joshua said
"Referenced 777, all the numbers you listed from column X are completely off. explanation?"
Make sure you are looking by the Path number, not the Atu. The one that is different is Atu XVII which is swapped with Atu IV."
Thanks. I always wondered why thelemapedia didn't have that corrected.... (seems to be pretty glaring with Crowley's tarot interp. TSADE IS NOT THE STAR. REPEAT) As an Aquarius, I find humor here.
(My father works for a company called "Star Window". . . o.o)"
Thats it. I'm not sure if it is an error in 777 or a purposeful blind for academics who cannot transcend. Because if you go strictly by mathematics and power series, it makes 'rational' sense. The change is supra-rational.
@Joshua said
"Referenced 777, all the numbers you listed from column X are completely off. explanation?"
Make sure you are looking by the Path number, not the Atu. The one that is different is Atu XVII which is swapped with Atu IV.
@Joshua said
"What's the sources of mystic numbers ?
Also 231? 78?"
Mystic numbers can be found in 777 Col. X. They are power series of the Sephiroth and paths.
231 is the power series from 0-21 and also mystic number of Atu XXI. It symbolizes all of the Atu. It is also a number of the Qliphoth. See Liber 231 and Nightside.
78 is the number of Aiwaz and Mezla, the mystic number of Atu I, and is 6 * 13 and 2 * 39. 78 cards in the Tarot.