College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

@Serpentarius said

"My question is this.... I am planning a working to invoke the forces of aqaurius. So I will use the ruling planet (Saturn) and make the Aquairius glyph in the center of the hexagram - this much is clear from Liber O....

But.. How about the hierarchy of entities for invoking down to assiah? Do I invoke down through the Kabalalistic worlds using the Saturn angels (So Tzaphiel, Agiel, Zazel) but then use the Aquarian Dali instead of Shabbathai?"

There are two points of view. One is to treat it entirely as Saturn - That would be especially true if you wanted the Saturn theme foremost in the sign idea. The other... you continue...

"But in Jim's 776 1/2 there are also Archangels of Assiah (col 304) for the zodiac (so Kambriel for Aquarius). But then Cols 408/409 are blank for row 15 (aquarius) so no listed inteligeces or spirits, .....But then there are Angles ruling the signs and their lesser assistants (col 412 and 413). So should I instead invoke Kambriel, then Ansoel, then Tzakmaqiel, then Dali???"

Essentially, yes. (Unless you have reason to use the other form above.)

The one problem here is that, for the zodiac, the number and levels of angels (the population of Yetzirah) is huge and complex. In practice, that needs to be simplified.

For Aquarius on this "use its own hierarchy" model, to the level of Assiah, I would use the following:

ATZILUTH: Heh Yod Vav Heh
BRIAH: Kambriel
YETZIRAH: Ansoel (Col. 412)
ASSIAH: Dali

There is no reason to use the other Yetziratic powers unless you have a specific need for them directly. For example

Lesser Assistant Angel (Col. 413) is probably only useful as bridging to others beneath it.
Ditto for Angel Lords of Triplicities (Col. 414)
Angels of Decanates & Pentades (Cols. 418-424) are only relevant if you are addressing a sub-portion of the sign.

In the course of my evolution as a human being, I experienced a period where I would lapse into a "lucid dream" every night before falling asleep. This condition lasted about a month. Frankly, the experience frightened me to no end. I liken it to being sucked out of one's skin while falling into an abyss of liquid fuzz.

To boot: at last I got wise and did some research. I found that many people "suffered" from sleep paralysis. Also, I found that some brave souls took charge, and used the experience to jump-start an out-of-body experience. Armed with such knowledge, I used my next "lucid dream" to facilitate an astral journey, which I found rather akward. My subsequent attempts to control this have come to naught, but the experience forever changed my ideas of "spirit" and "form."

Are we allowed to know what book that was by Pat Zalewski.

93 Jim,

I completely understand the 'why not going past (7)=[4] grade.'
Thanks for the link to the previous threads. The information I have read before and have found it to be useful.

Best endeavors in your new book release:-)

93 93/93.'.

James

When projecting "up" (also called "rising on the planes"), many people encounter his darkness of which you speak. It is a band of utter darkness that surrounds Earth. For the uninitiated or the "normal" person, this band, being dark and lonely, is merely a "ring-pass-not" (to use the old Theosophical term) that encourages the traveler in dreams or conscious projection to turn around and get back to familiar things. It is a form of a planetary magickal circle, and protective device, intended to keep human consciousness within the earth realm.
On the other hand, the initiate or experienced "skryer" usually passes directly through this dark band and enters the starry ("that's what "astral" means) realm.
When guiding people through "rising on the planes," and they encounter this dark band, they are to be encouraged to keeping going. In some cases, they must be talked into projecting their consciousness out ahead of them, beyond this dark band and beyond the present location of their astral vehicle, and then to catch up with that mental image. Interestingly, this (almost) always works. Out of more than 100 people (mostly beginners), I have seen about 30% of them encounter this dark band, but have only known ONE who simply could not get past the barrier.

This dark band should not be confused with the true VOID that is the goal of mystics. That VOID is nothing, but it is nothing simply because it is so high that no form exists because it is Pure Energy (accompanied by pure ecstasy).

The "dark band" surrounding earth is an artifact of the astral plane (Yesod). The VOID is beyond the Monad (Kether).

Thanks Jim!

I read somewhere (might even have been a poster on this very forum) that the rituals of the old aeon should not be used - and was therefore troubled at being "denied" the GIRP, Middle Pillar, etc.

@Serpentarius said

"FRom the link to the other thread : You might want to mark on your calendar June 25, 2009, just as a curio..."

Ah, yes. The quasi-prediction.

@Serpentarius said

"My question therefore - Is Lucid DReaming a possible way to acheive K&C with your HGA?"

Necessary answer: No person knows the key to this for any other, so it is impossible to answer other than in generalities. (Which also means that 'mandatory answer' includes, "anything is possible.")

My personal hit on the question: Lucid dreaming gives a means of direct access to subconsciousness, which is the domain wherein the HGA is generally first confronted and wherein the 5=6 link eventually is solidly anchored. So, yeah, if you're drawn to it and getting results, it could be an early step in your process.

It wouldn't be appropriate to discuss the O.T.O. lodge here. (If somebody says something negative, the site gets blamed; if they refrain from it, then you don't get served.)

I'll leave the thread here in case someone has input for you through Personal Messages.