Tree of Life- Averse Reflection
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@Freya said
"did Abramelin talk about them?"
Not under that name, and it doesn't seem to me that the "Abramelin demons" (less judgmentally: spirits) are not the same as Q'lippoth.
Q'lippoth are residual lifeless forms that are still retained. They shouldn't be confused with "demons" in general.
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@Jim said
" For example, the 11-headed serpent symbolizes many things, including shadow elements that ascend the Tree with us (our shadow content increasing with us as we increase in light, at least below the Abyss)."
Jim, I was thinking about your words and asked myself how is this possible? Is it because the more we know the more potential we have to do serious harm? By ascending the Tree do you mean walking the paths and spheres?
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Increasing n "spirituality" does not, by itself, resolve negative patterns. It may alter our perspectives so that we, in turn, undertake to resolve old patterns, but this doesn't happen automatically.
So, as we grow, we just become expanded versions of the same critter that we were at the beginning. "Great people have great flaws: Everything about them is great." To change old patterns we have to actually place attention n changing old patterns, not just "increase in Light."
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Thank you Jim, that makes a lot of sense. Regarding the Tree and its averse reflection, are there any Angel - Demons correspondences? i.e. seraphim, cherubim and their averse correspondences to the spheres?
I am trying to use the tree as a cosmic filing cabinet
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@Freya said
"Thank you Jim, that makes a lot of sense. Regarding the Tree and its averse reflection, are there any Angel - Demons correspondences? i.e. seraphim, cherubim and their averse correspondences to the spheres?
I am trying to use the tree as a cosmic filing cabinet "
The primary correspondences to the aversely reflected Tree are the Q'lippoth.
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@Freya said
"That's very interesting, I would like to find out more about it... any books you can reccommend, please?
What attributions do you think are best for Malkuth?"Here is the picture:
herbalwitchcraft.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/klippot-tree.gifMore on the subject in a very interesting book:
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0972182063More info at:
www.dragonrouge.neHope that helps.
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The names are in 777 and 776 1/2.
There is a slightly obscure Golden Dawn paper from the Second Order called "The Unclean Spirits." It's probably the most relevantly detailed discussion of characteristics, but it takes some work. If sufficiently interested, you ought to be able to find a copy. (Going from memory, I think one of Zalewski's books reproduced it.)
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@Freya said
"Thank you Jim, I am very interested to know more from reliable sources. Where can I find Zalewski's books?"
I think it's in this one. Can't promise without looking.
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It contains the Qlipoth lessons by Mathers, so it looks like it can very well be the one. Thank you so much Jim. I have liber 777 but I find it hard to navigate on my own.
Returning to Malkuth the bride vs Lilith the whore, isn't Lilith more an "anti mother"? Maybe this applies more to the reverse of Malkuth?
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Lol, it has something to do with the mental processes?
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The word most often translated "litigators" is probably more literally "hagglers." I tend to think that, as Q'lippoth of Tifereth, they represent lack of equilibrium and (ahem) just proportion.
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@Freya said
"Why is the Tree of the Qlipoth called the Tree of Knowledge? I have seen elsewhere that it's called the Tree of Evil. Do any of you know?"
It isn't called the Tree of Knowledge AFAIK. There are passages (e.g. in one of the GD rituals) that give that impression if read a certain way but, in fact, are referring to Malkuth as the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil (e.g., can branch either way).