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Tree of Life- Averse Reflection

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    Freya
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    Thank you Jim, that makes a lot of sense. Regarding the Tree and its averse reflection, are there any Angel - Demons correspondences? i.e. seraphim, cherubim and their averse correspondences to the spheres?

    I am trying to use the tree as a cosmic filing cabinet 😄

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Freya said

    "Thank you Jim, that makes a lot of sense. Regarding the Tree and its averse reflection, are there any Angel - Demons correspondences? i.e. seraphim, cherubim and their averse correspondences to the spheres?

    I am trying to use the tree as a cosmic filing cabinet 😄"

    The primary correspondences to the aversely reflected Tree are the Q'lippoth.

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    @Freya said

    "That's very interesting, I would like to find out more about it... any books you can reccommend, please?
    What attributions do you think are best for Malkuth?"

    Here is the picture:
    herbalwitchcraft.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/klippot-tree.gif

    More on the subject in a very interesting book:
    www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0972182063

    More info at:
    www.dragonrouge.ne

    Hope that helps.
    😄

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    Jim Eshelman
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    The names are in 777 and 776 1/2.

    There is a slightly obscure Golden Dawn paper from the Second Order called "The Unclean Spirits." It's probably the most relevantly detailed discussion of characteristics, but it takes some work. If sufficiently interested, you ought to be able to find a copy. (Going from memory, I think one of Zalewski's books reproduced it.)

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    Thank you Jim, I am very interested to know more from reliable sources. Where can I find Zalewski's books?

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    @Freya said

    "Thank you Jim, I am very interested to know more from reliable sources. Where can I find Zalewski's books?"

    www.amazon.com/Kabbalah-Golden-Dawn-Pat-Zalewski/dp/0785811966/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1404942612&sr=1-5&keywords=pat+zalewski

    I think it's in this one. Can't promise without looking.

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    Freya
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    It contains the Qlipoth lessons by Mathers, so it looks like it can very well be the one. Thank you so much Jim. I have liber 777 but I find it hard to navigate on my own.

    Returning to Malkuth the bride vs Lilith the whore, isn't Lilith more an "anti mother"? Maybe this applies more to the reverse of Malkuth?

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    David
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    What's so bad about Litigators? 😡

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    Lol, it has something to do with the mental processes? 😄

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    Well, you could argue that both ways.

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    @David S said

    "Well, you could argue that both ways."

    ROFLMAO

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    The word most often translated "litigators" is probably more literally "hagglers." I tend to think that, as Q'lippoth of Tifereth, they represent lack of equilibrium and (ahem) just proportion.

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    David
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    The Golden Meanies

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    Hermitas
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    "...argue that both ways." Lol. Nice.

    [lightning bolt]"hagglers"[/lightning bolt]

    Litigating "deals." Oh my damn... So much sense. For me, anyway.

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    Why is the Tree of the Qlipoth called the Tree of Knowledge? I have seen elsewhere that it's called the Tree of Evil. Do any of you know?

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    @Freya said

    "Why is the Tree of the Qlipoth called the Tree of Knowledge? I have seen elsewhere that it's called the Tree of Evil. Do any of you know?"

    It isn't called the Tree of Knowledge AFAIK. There are passages (e.g. in one of the GD rituals) that give that impression if read a certain way but, in fact, are referring to Malkuth as the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil (e.g., can branch either way).

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    Freya
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    ok thank you 😀 (i saw it written on the picture kindly posted by frater INRI). Has the Qlipoth tree a specific name?

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    @Freya said

    "ok thank you 😀 (i saw it written on the picture kindly posted by frater INRI). Has the Qlipoth tree a specific name?"

    Yeah, they (Order on the link above) have somewhat different system of thought from ours. They seem to call it 'the tree of knowledge'. Its all in the book on the link provided.

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    They claim to follow the left hand path if I have read correctly. Not a system I want to follow.... 😱

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    Does Thelema follow the left-hand path?

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