LBRP Divine Name Sequence
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I understand. I guess I just echo Gnosomai's thoughts. What am I supposed to do? TOT is a thousand or so miles away from me. I've poured 10 or so solid hours into determining the reason behind the sequence and I ain't stopping. But if I can't discuss it here, I'm hooped. I know that's not your problem though. But you, being the person who knows it, are naturally the target of my findings. I can't just move on and just do the ritual anyway. I must know.
I will stop discussing it... But if I do feel I have it, I will return to this thread with my conclusion (unless that would anger you) as you're the sole person I know who can confirm if I have it or not.
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I advise that U reassess your decision that U can't just do the ritual without this information. U suggest that this is too much involvement of the intellect.
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Go for it!
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Hey, this is unrelated, but I didn't want to muck up the forum with a new topic for a smallish question. I hope this is the right decision, but let me know if you'd prefer i make a new topic in future cases. Anyway, I was wondering if you were willing to help me with this.
I read the sepher yetzirah and I noticed that the double letter planet attributions are different from the ones we all use. Whereas the single letter zodiac attributions are exactly what we use. Why don't we use the planet associations from the sepher yetzirah, e.g., gimel = Mars, dalet = Sun. I can't imagine why we'd use the single letter zodiac attributions but change the planetary double letter associations.
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Of more than half a dozen editions of the SY, they all give a different attribution list. The one we use is received oral tradition.
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Blinds.
There's apparently quite a bit of disfigured information intended to keep what is considered holy from those considered dogs.
My problem is that once I figure something out, I don't know if it's bad to talk about or not. I don't know what's obligated or if my discovering it means it's just time to talk about it.
I tripped on the Cube of Space, know I'm right, seems the simplest thing in the world now, but not even Townley covered in his two "expert" books. And I'm like, depth psychology could probably really benefit from this, but... I don't know. Whatever. Seems like anyone who looked at it long enough would figure it out. I know I can't be the first.
But whatever. Maybe I'm just too good-natured to figure out how it could be misused.
Got tired of feeling everyone's internal conflict about it.
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@Hermitas said
"Every time I try, I get so bound up about it that I can't sleep. So, no."
Candidly: That's a serious problem. You have to get over it. You can't let something stop you like that, especially when it's your own mind.
What difference would it make, anyway? Unless you're going to visualize different things or think different thoughts during the ritual, hoe would this knowledge alter one bit what you do it the ritual?
I've known the formula for nearly 30 years and it has almost never even crossed my mind when doing the ritual (or almost any other time, unless questions like this arise).
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you have a separate (unrelated to what Jim and I were discussing) revelation that pertains to the cube of space, but you can't share your revelation because if you do, you get obsessed or haunted by it and can't sleep?
No judgment: just wondering if I'm interpreting your message correctly.
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Yes. Sort of - it depends on whether or not one assumes that the LRP's directions are unassociated with the directions on the Cube of Space. I'm not completely certain of their connection yet (though I have flirted with the idea and so far like it - kind of related, but in a "once removed" kind of way), so I'll just say yes. Different.
Full disclosure: I believe myself to be oversensitive to what I describe as "psychic blowback" or "feedback" - intense reactionary emotions I believe I pick up on. It triggers manic rage, for which I am on medication, and I'm honestly afraid for my health. Hence my embrace of hermity-ness.
So, I remain torn about it. Because I'd like to leave some kind of legacy from all this study. I don't really have anything to show for it. But I'm honestly not sure I can handle it.
Mostly, I was telling a story of being able to relate to frustration with not knowing what to do with thinking you've discovered a blind and not being able to confirm it.
That, and I'm starting to think a lot of people know it anyway... I probably just need to find a fraternity..
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@Hermitas said
"Yes. Sort of - it depends on whether or not one assumes that the LRP's directions are unassociated with the directions on the Cube of Space. I'm not completely certain of their connection yet (though I have flirted with the idea and so far like it), so I'll just say yes. Different."
I'm unaware of anything associating the Divine Names to the quarters of the Cube of Space (and, obviously, the elements of the archangels are not thus attributed.
From the other things you've said, you might want to observe that any ritual that has you charging east, south, west, and north in sequence with Cube of Space attributions stimulates four chakras in sequence, from throat downward. With the sensitivity you mentioned, if you are layering in these other attributions, it is very likely you would be reacting to this phenomenon.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"I've known the formula for nearly 30 years and it has almost never even crossed my mind when doing the ritual (or almost any other time, unless questions like this arise)."
Then for me the relevant question becomes: What was your experience of the ritual before the answer was given to you?
The fact that you've known it for 30 years and it almost never crosses your mind speaks to the fact that, once your mind has recognized the truth -- once the correct seed has been planted -- that part of your mind will consider its work done and the actual power of the ritual can do its work of watering the seed. Once the correct seed is in the ground, we don't have to keep checking in on it to make sure that we actually buried a seed and not a pebble. We can attend to other things and trust that the water we are sprinkling on the soil every morning is doing its job, even if no sprouts show for months on end. Once the truth is known, then we can rely on faith.
Relying on faith ahead of that point ("This ritual, done by rote, does its job.") tickles that part of the mind that wants to know why it's doing what it's doing. For anyone who doesn't have the possibility of entering the Second Order of TOT in this lifetime, it's an answer that the mind now knows it likely will never get and so doubt creeps in. One might turn to published accounts at which point one will find a plethora of different explanations. From memory right now, I know I've read those that correlate the names to the Archangels, to various sephiroth as one spins and rotates around the tree, to a deep and complicated mathematical formula. Following my own inner guide, I've landed on a very useful building of the Cube of Space which does, as you mention above, focus on the chakras from Venus to Mars during this particular section.
But... not having a definite answer as to what these vibrations are meant to be accomplishing means that, unless I've already worked myself up to an enflamed point (not a typical occurrence with a preliminary banishing ritual, though it does happen on occasion) the mind takes over. The mind wants to know what it's doing and why. The mind won't be banished by a simple: "Have faith."