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Help with a passage in Sepher Sephiroth

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    Frater D.T.V.
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    Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum.

    Anyways, I was hoping someone might be able to shed a little light on something from Crowley's Sepher Sephiroth.

    I was doing a bit of Gematria and came across the following, under the value 59:
    "AChYM
    Brethren [Referred to Lilith & Samael--K.D L.C.K p 54]"

    (just to clarify AChYM is, from from right to left, Aleph, Cheth, Yod, Mem)

    K.D L.C.K. is of course Mather's <i>Kabbala Denudata</i> (or, <i>Kabbala Unveiled</i>). I searched through the Google Books copy as well as several online copies and could not find the reference. There is one mention of Samael, but it sheds no light on the passage. AChYM seems to mean "brothers," so "brethren" is definitely a fair translation. But why "Brethren" might refer to Lilith and Samael, I have no idea.

    Any ideas, info... guesses? It would help a lot with something I'm working on. I like the attribution quite a bit, but I'd just like to understand the logic behind it.

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    • F Frater D.T.V.

      Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum.

      Anyways, I was hoping someone might be able to shed a little light on something from Crowley's Sepher Sephiroth.

      I was doing a bit of Gematria and came across the following, under the value 59:
      "AChYM
      Brethren [Referred to Lilith & Samael--K.D L.C.K p 54]"

      (just to clarify AChYM is, from from right to left, Aleph, Cheth, Yod, Mem)

      K.D L.C.K. is of course Mather's <i>Kabbala Denudata</i> (or, <i>Kabbala Unveiled</i>). I searched through the Google Books copy as well as several online copies and could not find the reference. There is one mention of Samael, but it sheds no light on the passage. AChYM seems to mean "brothers," so "brethren" is definitely a fair translation. But why "Brethren" might refer to Lilith and Samael, I have no idea.

      Any ideas, info... guesses? It would help a lot with something I'm working on. I like the attribution quite a bit, but I'd just like to understand the logic behind it.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      @Frater D.T.V. said

      "Anyways, I was hoping someone might be able to shed a little light on something from Crowley's Sepher Sephiroth.

      I was doing a bit of Gematria and came across the following, under the value 59:
      "AChYM
      Brethren [Referred to Lilith & Samael--K.D L.C.K p 54]""

      Yes, echim means "brethren;" perhaps "siblings" in some situations.

      "K.D L.C.K. is of course Mather's <i>Kabbala Denudata</i> (or, <i>Kabbala Unveiled</i>). I searched through the Google Books copy as well as several online copies and could not find the reference. There is one mention of Samael, but it sheds no light on the passage. AChYM seems to mean "brothers," so "brethren" is definitely a fair translation. But why "Brethren" might refer to Lilith and Samael, I have no idea."

      It's just a reference to the statement that Lilith and Samael were brother and sister by some traditions.

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      • F Frater D.T.V.

        Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum.

        Anyways, I was hoping someone might be able to shed a little light on something from Crowley's Sepher Sephiroth.

        I was doing a bit of Gematria and came across the following, under the value 59:
        "AChYM
        Brethren [Referred to Lilith & Samael--K.D L.C.K p 54]"

        (just to clarify AChYM is, from from right to left, Aleph, Cheth, Yod, Mem)

        K.D L.C.K. is of course Mather's <i>Kabbala Denudata</i> (or, <i>Kabbala Unveiled</i>). I searched through the Google Books copy as well as several online copies and could not find the reference. There is one mention of Samael, but it sheds no light on the passage. AChYM seems to mean "brothers," so "brethren" is definitely a fair translation. But why "Brethren" might refer to Lilith and Samael, I have no idea.

        Any ideas, info... guesses? It would help a lot with something I'm working on. I like the attribution quite a bit, but I'd just like to understand the logic behind it.

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        Frater D.T.V.
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        Thank you. I was afraid it was going to be that simple. Refraining from assuming complexity is tough sometimes, especially when Crowley and Gematria are involved...

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