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    Lapis
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    As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

    The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

    I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
    Can any of you guys help me with this?

    L.Lazuli

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      As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

      The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

      I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
      Can any of you guys help me with this?

      L.Lazuli

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      @Lapis said

      "As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

      "The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof."

      I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
      Can any of you guys help me with this?

      L.Lazuli"

      O PHALLE = Phallus + Kteis, for one (Lingam-Yoni/Rose-Cross/Cross-in-the-circle, etc.)

      IAO131

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      • L Lapis

        As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

        The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

        I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
        Can any of you guys help me with this?

        L.Lazuli

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        LPD Nu
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        93, All,

        I'm no expert but the language used in Liber XXV is Greek, therefore you probably would want to use the Greek numeration.

        Here's a good gematria calculator from the OTO US Grand Lodge website that might help:

        oto-usa.org/cgi-bin/achad/achad.cgi

        Hope this helps...

        93s,

        BR. THVR

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        • L Lapis

          As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

          The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

          I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
          Can any of you guys help me with this?

          L.Lazuli

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          Lapis
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          Yes, that does help - thenk you both...now I just need a reliable Greek Gematria database to explore the possibilities of 800 & 816!

          L.Lazuli

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          • L Lapis

            As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

            The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

            I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
            Can any of you guys help me with this?

            L.Lazuli

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            Jim Eshelman
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            @Lapis said

            "now I just need a reliable Greek Gematria database to explore the possibilities of 800 & 816!"

            800
            H DYNAMIS MEGALH - The Great Power (title of Simon Magus) KOSMOY - Of the world (universe) KURIOS - Lord, god PISTIS - Trust, faith SYS - Pig, swine, boar YPNOS - Sleep

            816
            Nothing majorly important in my data base in the Greek. But the Hebrew has such entries as:
            DBRIM (Devarim) - Words; Hebrew title of Deuteronomy
            MOVN (Maon) - Residence; the 5th Heaven, corres. to Geburah
            OLIVN (Elion) - The Most High; a name of God; a title of Kether
            ShVOThM (Sav'atham) - Their cry
            ThShMOV (This'ma'ao) - You shall hearken

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            • L Lapis

              As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

              The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

              I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
              Can any of you guys help me with this?

              L.Lazuli

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              gmugmble
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              Where are we getting 800 and 816? O Phalle = 800 + 500 + 1 + 30 + 30 + 5 = 1366 = i phoni (the voice). Also, as half-mentioned above, 1366 = phallos + kteis.

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              • L Lapis

                As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                Can any of you guys help me with this?

                L.Lazuli

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                Lapis
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                From the Greek Gematria calculator on the OTO US Grang Lodge webpage that THVR provided the link to...the numbers must be drastically off if your sum total is that different from theirs. Would you mind posting the numerical attributions of the alpha-beta that you are using?

                L.Lazuli

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                • L Lapis

                  As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                  The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                  I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                  Can any of you guys help me with this?

                  L.Lazuli

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                  Frater SOL
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                  93

                  When using Isopsephia:
                  O PHALLE=224:
                  RVChY(Gen.6:3) - Ruach or 'Spirit'
                  KTzDYQ(Gen.18:25) - Tzaddik, meaning 'Righteous' or 'Upright One.'
                  The Tzaddik is, according to the Sephir ha Zohar, the Partzuf, or 'manifestation of', the Sephirah of Yesod, & according to the Lesser Holy Assembly of the Zohar, Yesod is the Phallus of the Holy One.

                  93 93/93

                  616

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                  • L Lapis

                    As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                    The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                    I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                    Can any of you guys help me with this?

                    L.Lazuli

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                    Jim Eshelman
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                    @Lapis said

                    "From the Greek Gematria calculator on the OTO US Grang Lodge webpage that THVR provided the link to...the numbers must be drastically off if your sum total is that different from theirs. Would you mind posting the numerical attributions of the alpha-beta that you are using?"

                    He's using the correct one.

                    You did, for example, take into consideration that the "O" is an Omega, not an Omicron? And so forth. There are several possible letter confusions if you just typed "O Phalle" into the calculator.

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                    • L Lapis

                      As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                      The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                      I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                      Can any of you guys help me with this?

                      L.Lazuli

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                      Lapis
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                      @Jim Eshelman said

                      "He's using the correct one.

                      You did, for example, take into consideration that the "O" is an Omega, not an Omicron? And so forth. There are several possible letter confusions if you just typed "O Phalle" into the calculator."

                      Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?

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                      • L Lapis

                        As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                        The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                        I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                        Can any of you guys help me with this?

                        L.Lazuli

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                        gmugmble
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                        @Lapis said

                        "Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?"

                        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopsephy

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                        • L Lapis

                          As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                          The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                          I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                          Can any of you guys help me with this?

                          L.Lazuli

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                          Jim Eshelman
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                          @Lapis said

                          "Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?"

                          Omega = 800
                          Phi = 500
                          Alpha = 1
                          Lambda = 30
                          Lambda = 30
                          Epsilon =5
                          = 1,366

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                          • L Lapis

                            As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                            The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                            I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                            Can any of you guys help me with this?

                            L.Lazuli

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                            Lapis
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                            Thank you guys - but what of SOI?

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                            • L Lapis

                              As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                              The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                              I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                              Can any of you guys help me with this?

                              L.Lazuli

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                              Jim Eshelman
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                              @Lapis said

                              "Thank you guys - but what of SOI?"

                              Sigma - 200
                              Omicron - 70
                              Iota - 10
                              = 280

                              280 is the area, in square feet, of the seven walls of the Vault of the Adepts. It is also the value of the Hebrew name Sandalphon, Archangel of Malkuth in Assiah. By legend, Sandalphon and Metatron are said to be the same Archangel, seen from a different perspective. The former is “the reconciler for Earth;” the latter is a manifestation of the Divine Presence. Each is representative of the pure descent of spiritual forces from the Highest Crown into balanced manifestation in the Kingdom.

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                              • L Lapis

                                As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

                                The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof.

                                I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
                                Can any of you guys help me with this?

                                L.Lazuli

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                                If you reverse SOI it becomes IOS which means , Arrow, Poison, or One.

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