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    Aum418
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    @Lapis said

    "As a footnote to the 'SOI, O PHALLE...' section of Star Ruby, Perdurabo says:

    "The secret sense of these words is to be sought in the numeration thereof."

    I have attempted to find meaningful significance in these words using traditional Hebrew Gematria but am not having much luck.
    Can any of you guys help me with this?

    L.Lazuli"

    O PHALLE = Phallus + Kteis, for one (Lingam-Yoni/Rose-Cross/Cross-in-the-circle, etc.)

    IAO131

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    93, All,

    I'm no expert but the language used in Liber XXV is Greek, therefore you probably would want to use the Greek numeration.

    Here's a good gematria calculator from the OTO US Grand Lodge website that might help:

    oto-usa.org/cgi-bin/achad/achad.cgi

    Hope this helps...

    93s,

    BR. THVR

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    Yes, that does help - thenk you both...now I just need a reliable Greek Gematria database to explore the possibilities of 800 & 816!

    L.Lazuli

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Lapis said

    "now I just need a reliable Greek Gematria database to explore the possibilities of 800 & 816!"

    800
    H DYNAMIS MEGALH - The Great Power (title of Simon Magus) KOSMOY - Of the world (universe) KURIOS - Lord, god PISTIS - Trust, faith SYS - Pig, swine, boar YPNOS - Sleep

    816
    Nothing majorly important in my data base in the Greek. But the Hebrew has such entries as:
    DBRIM (Devarim) - Words; Hebrew title of Deuteronomy
    MOVN (Maon) - Residence; the 5th Heaven, corres. to Geburah
    OLIVN (Elion) - The Most High; a name of God; a title of Kether
    ShVOThM (Sav'atham) - Their cry
    ThShMOV (This'ma'ao) - You shall hearken

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    gmugmble
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    Where are we getting 800 and 816? O Phalle = 800 + 500 + 1 + 30 + 30 + 5 = 1366 = i phoni (the voice). Also, as half-mentioned above, 1366 = phallos + kteis.

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    From the Greek Gematria calculator on the OTO US Grang Lodge webpage that THVR provided the link to...the numbers must be drastically off if your sum total is that different from theirs. Would you mind posting the numerical attributions of the alpha-beta that you are using?

    L.Lazuli

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    Frater SOL
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    93

    When using Isopsephia:
    O PHALLE=224:
    RVChY(Gen.6:3) - Ruach or 'Spirit'
    KTzDYQ(Gen.18:25) - Tzaddik, meaning 'Righteous' or 'Upright One.'
    The Tzaddik is, according to the Sephir ha Zohar, the Partzuf, or 'manifestation of', the Sephirah of Yesod, & according to the Lesser Holy Assembly of the Zohar, Yesod is the Phallus of the Holy One.

    93 93/93

    616

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Lapis said

    "From the Greek Gematria calculator on the OTO US Grang Lodge webpage that THVR provided the link to...the numbers must be drastically off if your sum total is that different from theirs. Would you mind posting the numerical attributions of the alpha-beta that you are using?"

    He's using the correct one.

    You did, for example, take into consideration that the "O" is an Omega, not an Omicron? And so forth. There are several possible letter confusions if you just typed "O Phalle" into the calculator.

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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "He's using the correct one.

    You did, for example, take into consideration that the "O" is an Omega, not an Omicron? And so forth. There are several possible letter confusions if you just typed "O Phalle" into the calculator."

    Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?

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    @Lapis said

    "Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?"

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopsephy

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    Jim Eshelman
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    @Lapis said

    "Can you point me to a listing of the letters & their numeration?"

    Omega = 800
    Phi = 500
    Alpha = 1
    Lambda = 30
    Lambda = 30
    Epsilon =5
    = 1,366

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    Thank you guys - but what of SOI?

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    @Lapis said

    "Thank you guys - but what of SOI?"

    Sigma - 200
    Omicron - 70
    Iota - 10
    = 280

    280 is the area, in square feet, of the seven walls of the Vault of the Adepts. It is also the value of the Hebrew name Sandalphon, Archangel of Malkuth in Assiah. By legend, Sandalphon and Metatron are said to be the same Archangel, seen from a different perspective. The former is “the reconciler for Earth;” the latter is a manifestation of the Divine Presence. Each is representative of the pure descent of spiritual forces from the Highest Crown into balanced manifestation in the Kingdom.

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    If you reverse SOI it becomes IOS which means , Arrow, Poison, or One.

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