ALHIM & ELOHIM
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I have a very simple question. Is ALHIM and ELOHIM the same thing? If not, can you tell me what is the difference?
Also, you may also know the technical differences of QDVSh and QIDVSh QVDSh. They mean something like "Holy" but with small differences.
Thank you!
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@Metzareph said
"Is ALHIM and ELOHIM the same thing? If not, can you tell me what is the difference?"
Yes. The first is a transliteration of the Hebrew spelling (Aleph Lamed Heh Yod Mem). The second is its pronumciation.
"Also, you may also know the technical differences of QDVSh and QIDVSh QVDSh. They mean something like "Holy" but with small differences.p"
Yes. Plus various pronunciations of the same spelling, which have different meanings. I'd have to look each of them up in turn. (E.g., the QDSh at the start of Liber ARARITA, Cap. VII, must be pronounced "QADesh," despite the "Qadosh" in the rest of the chapter, because no word pronounced "Qadosh" is the right part of speech.)
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Are you sure about that?
AFAIK, there's no solid rule for which letter endings denote gender in Hebrew, aside from the generality that words ending in Heh or Tau tend to be feminine (a generality, BTW that tends to carry over to other semitic languages, like Arabic)
Another common Semitic trait is the applying of patterns of vowels, suffix and/or prefix letters to a verb root to derive nouns. If you know the pattern and the verb root, you can divine the meaning of the word. In Hebrew grammar, this is known as "meters".
For example, a mem prefix, and an "i" "a" vowel combo indicates a place where the verb takes place. QDSh means dedicate/consecrate/make holy. So a "miqdash" is a place of holiness.
But to be accurate, you would need the actual Hebrew vowels, not a transliteration of unknown reliability. So, for QIDVSh, it depends. If it includes a yod and a vav, then it would be Kiddush, the blessing of the wine during Sabbath and holidays.
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There is no AL vs. EL. Rather AL (= Aleph Lamed) is the actual Hebrew spelling of the syllable pronounced EL.
For example:
RPAL = Raphael
R = Ra
P = Pha
AL = El -
Thanks you all for all the help!
AvshalomBinyamin wrote:
"But to be accurate, you would need the actual Hebrew vowels, not a transliteration of unknown reliability. So, for QIDVSh, it depends. If it includes a yod and a vav, then it would be Kiddush, the blessing of the wine during Sabbath and holidays."
What about QVDSh (Qoph, Vav, Daleth, Shin)
Thanks again!
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@Metzareph said
"What about QVDSh (Qoph, Vav, Daleth, Shin)"
Holy. (with the underlying meaning of separated/consecrated)
It's often used in the form "x ha-qodesh" and translated "the holy x" - as in "×ש×× ×ק××שâ" (Leshon HaKodesh; the holy tongue - Hebrew), or "ך×× ×ק××ש" (Ruach HaKodesh; the Holy Spirit)
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It's worth remembering that knowledge of Hebrew amongst the GD and early AA was comparitively sparse. Crowley was unaware that Sephardi Jews pronounce Hebrew differently than Ashkenazi Jews, hence Crowley's unfair criticism of Regardie's Garden of Pomegranites, which used Sephardi pronunciation, such as Sephiros for Sephiroth. IMO Sephardis are more likely to be "correct".
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@sethur said
"It's worth remembering that knowledge of Hebrew amongst the GD and early AA was comparitively sparse. Crowley was unaware that Sephardi Jews pronounce Hebrew differently than Ashkenazi Jews, hence Crowley's unfair criticism of Regardie's Garden of Pomegranites, which used Sephardi pronunciation, such as Sephiros for Sephiroth. IMO Sephardis are more likely to be "correct"."
Just a slight, pedantic correction. Sephiros was the Ashkenazi pronunciation.
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Alrah, you might be thinking of "yah" and "'el" suffixes. "Yah" being a shortened version of the tetragrammaton, and "el" being another version of "God". I've read that the "yah" suffix connotes the angel being from the pillar of mercy, and the "el" suffix as being from the pillar of severety.
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@Alrah said
"Thank you Jim. I'm trying to trace my mistake. Could you tell me if there are two conventions for the ending of the names of God re: the Shemhamphorasch? I had thought it was AL or EL, but perhaps it is something else? AH?"
Yeah, I wonder if you're thinking of the -AL vs. -YH endings. (Personally, I'm not sure these should be gender differentiated, but that's a separate issue from the language side.)
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I was reading the BP on the bus just a few minutes ago, and ran across the following:
"Sekhel Ha-Qadosh (Sh-K-L H-Q-D-V-Sh) The word qadash, with all of its variants, is too well known to warrant more than passing comment. All of its forms mean, essentially, "holy", and this Path [Binah] is "holy making" or sanctifying."
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@Jim Eshelman said
"the QDSh at the start of Liber ARARITA, Cap. VII, must be pronounced "QADesh," despite the "Qadosh" in the rest of the chapter, because no word pronounced "Qadosh" is the right part of speech.)"
Wow, you sound like me here being a stickler for grammatical niceties
. (Trust me, no one appreciates it.) But the adjective "qadosh" is sometimes used as a name in the Bible (Hosea 11:9 and Habakkuk 3:3 to pick two examples among many), translated "the Holy One" in King James, much as we say "the rich" to mean "the rich people". So saying "Qadosh" in Ararita VII is probably not wrong.Here are links where people can hear them pronounced.
"Qadosh" (adjective): www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H6918
"Qodesh" (noun): www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H6944