Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios
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@MMe said
"I understood that I had to visualize myself in the god-form and the god in the solar boat with Tahuti and Ra-Hoor in the various quarters... Is it wrong?"
There's nothing else specified by Liber Resh itself. Of course, many things come spontaneously, but that's different from postulating that there is a further fixed standard to which you have to comply.
I'm certain I've never used that particular visualization in 30+ years of doing Liber Resh FWIW.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"I'm certain I've never used that particular visualization in 30+ years of doing Liber Resh FWIW."
You "only" facing the quarter, greet the Sun, give the sign and assume the god-form, right?
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@MMe said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"I'm certain I've never used that particular visualization in 30+ years of doing Liber Resh FWIW."You "only" facing the quarter, greet the Sun, give the sign and assume the god-form, right?"
Going literally out of Liber Resh:
Face the direction of the Sun.
Assume "the God-form of Whom thou adorest."
Give the sign of my grade.
Recite the verse specified.
Give the Sign of Silence.
Recite the adoration handed "taught [me] by [my] Superior," which is Unity etc. while standing in the Sign of Osiris Risen, and concluding again with the Sign of Silence. -
I'd say whatever means most to you.
Whatever connects strongest with you. There's no wrong way to do this if the instructions are followed and the true will comes through for the adoration, seeing in yourself aspects of these different gods and what they truly mean to you.
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Ok!
Mr Eshelman and ThelemicMage, I am very grateful for the explanations. -
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@Jim Eshelman said
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Going literally out of Liber Resh:Face the direction of the Sun.
Assume "the God-form of Whom thou adorest."
Give the sign of my grade.
Recite the verse specified.
Give the Sign of Silence.
Recite the adoration handed "taught [me] by [my] Superior," which is Unity etc. while standing in the Sign of Osiris Risen, and concluding again with the Sign of Silence."Ok, I understand almost everything, but when I say, for e.g. at the dawn:
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[...] who travellest over the Heavens in Thy bark at the Uprising of the Sun.
Tahuti standeth in His splendour at the prow, and Ra-Hoor abideth at the helm. [...]
"I don't have to visualize the sunboat with Tahuti and Ra-Hoor?
Or in the Adoration which follows, I don't have to visualize Ra, Tum, Khephra, Hathoor, Mentu, Ankh-af-na-khonsu, etc...
I just need to visualize the sun?Thanks.
Excuse me, but I'm a little confused...
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Already answered.
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@__THE_HERMIT__ said
"Liber Resh is a very significant ritual to me because it is directly related to the geometry of the cosmos, in this case the rotation of the earth on its axis, while other seasonal rituals are related to the orbit of the earth round the Sun i.e especially the equinoxes and the solstices, this culmulatively implies that being aware of one´s position in relation to the cosmos at all times is important. I postulate ultimately mutable things may be understood/categorized in terms of position and relative accelaration, and hence Liber Resh is one point of intersection possibly between a more secular and geometric perspective and Magick."
What he said.
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I've used to perform the short form of Liber Resh vel Helios (as Regardie said in his "One Year Manual") with these below images. I've printed and pasted them in my temple's walls. but now I saw Jim's post which says they do not correspondes elemental.
BTW, Images are as below (Thanks Sarah Riley)
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arahriley.deviantart.com/art/Earth-67337147eimei93.deviantart.com/art/Liber-Resh-Vel-Helios-302091342
(and Thank u Seimei93)
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@Jim Eshelman said
"I repeat to my standard recommendation: Get one or two great full-color coffee table books on Egyptian gods, and find a picture that speaks to you. These are not standardized at all, and everybody should find their own."
I agree Jim. I love to look at art books.
Even better, if you are lucky enough to live near a museum with a collection of Egyptian art, or have the means to travel to Egypt, this will be more powerful than looking at reproductions in a book.
In the USA, there are major collections of Egyptian art at the Metropolitan Museum in New York, the Brooklyn Museum of Art, the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, the Oriental Institute in Chicago, the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum in San Jose, California, and others
In Canada, there is the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto.
Of course in Europe there are many collections, the British Museum, the Louvre, the Egyptian Museum in Berlin, many others.
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Does anyone have any opinions on the alternative Liber Resh by Tyger Brightfield? I found it in some OTO publication, just wondering your thoughts. They call it a 'feline Resh', it uses Bast, Sekhmet and Ra. Here's the text quoted:
"Dawn
Welcome, O Bast, thou Left Eye of Ra
Flexing thy claws to awake from the night
Welcome, O Sekhmet, thou Right eye of Ra
Yawning and stretching to bring in the light
We greet thee, Bright Ones, from the abodes of night.
Noon
Bright Eye of Ra, burning above
Bast stares down relentlessly
Fierce Eye of Ra, destroyer of shadows
Sekhmet watches patiently
We greet thee, Burning Ones, from the abodes of morning.
Sunset
Magnificent Bast, Left Eye of Ra
Purring into softening light
Majestic Sekhmet, Right Eye of Ra
Relaxing into golden motion
We greet thee, Beautiful Ones, from the abodes of day.
Midnight
The Left Eye of Ra is closed.
Bast hunts.
The Right Eye of Ra is closed.
Sekhmet prowls.
We greet thee, Fierce Ones, from the abodes of evening" -
No opinion per se, except that it isn't Liber Resh
It's a solar adoration - but it's a misnomer to call it Resh. (Nothing against alternative solar adorations: See my Liber Shemesh in my new book Pearls of Wisdom.
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It reminded me of an anamorphic tribal oath I liked.......( I was not ever into that anamorphic scene but a friend was, so I am guilty by association, the only thing I found of value in it was this oath)
"I am darkness and light,
the shadow hunter
and king of the sun,
my claws hold the earth,
my tongue tastes the sky.
i am steadfast and strong,
compassionate and caring.
i am tiger,
and my words are pure." -
"No opinion per se, except that it isn't Liber Resh "
Hahaha, oh, gosh.
Of course! -
93!
I searched through the thread and ITC issues and could not find a direct answer to this. When "performing" Resh and giving the "sign of your grade," are you visualizing the God form in your exact body position? So, instead of seeing the God in it's characteristic stance, you would instead see it in your grade sign?
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Yes.
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And I always thought that when I physically stand in the Sign of Grade (with eyes closed), I should imagine the God in it's characteristic posture.
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@Quaestor Lucis said
"And I always thought that when I physically stand in the Sign of Grade (with eyes closed), I should imagine the God in it's characteristic posture.
If I'm wrong then what happens with the God-form when I change my physical posture? When should I release it?"When assuming a god-form, you should experience it as your body. Its position should be your physical position unless you are withdrawing from it. When you change position, it also changes position.
It's like your robe. Your robe doesn't keep its arms at its side when you raise yours, right? - But, even more so, it's your body, and you should entirely experience it as being your body, so far as possible.
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I understood, thank you
God-form assumed throughout the whole ritual? And the God-form is the only thing that I need to visualize in Liber Resh, right?
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@Quaestor Lucis said
"God-form assumed throughout the whole ritual? And the God-form is the only thing that I need to visualize in Liber Resh, right?"
No, because you're doing something entirely different when you go to the adoration.
"Need to visualize" is a complicated phrase. I prefer not to publically talk about anything that's not explicitly in the text of Liber Resh to alluded to by it, especially when there are things one can discover in the doing, or which change over time, or which are individual (three different categories <g>).
Simple answer, though, is, "Yes, that's all that Resh mentions, right?"