blood of the moon!
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@Metzareph said
"Blood sacrifices have been part of humanity for a long time though. Aztecs were very adept practicing this, and so many other cultures."
Don't confuse the bloody sacrifice with the living blood.
The key to the sacrifice - see Cap. XII of Magick in Theory & Practice - is that, "The blood is the life, Mr. Renfield." It is the surrendering of the life, rather than the blood representative of it, that is important in that type of working. OTOH, when Ra-Hoor-Khuit demands that blood flow in his name, I've never thought that this meant, say, in war - rather, let blood flow in life - in our veins, and in the menses - so that every beat of the heart is in Horus' name.
The flowing of the living blood is a different formula than the spilling of blood that sacrifices life.
Menstrual blood is an interesting cross-over between these two in some fashion, because it is a natural living process, yet is also nature's sacrifice of the child that was not, that month, conceived.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@Jim Eshelman said
" when Ra-Hoor-Khuit demands that blood flow in his name, I've never thought that this meant, say, in war - rather, let blood flow in life - in our veins, and in the menses - so that every beat of the heart is in Horus' name.
"Wow! really beautiful! thanks!
Hey Jim, what would you say about the Mass of the Phoenix? You are using menstrual blood AND your own blood?
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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93 All,
I have been watching this post with Great interest because the subject is new to me. What jumps out at me, is that this is a type of blood sacrifice but, with out having to slaughter an animal. This could make this ritual ancient indeed.
A women period is normally food for an unborn child. So, the blood would be for the Nefesh the animal soul. One could also add Yesod in to the mix because Yesod=80 which equal the Hebrew letter Peh/Mars/ The Tower/Red=80.
Interestingly, PFC: Pattern on the Trestlboard statement number Five/MARS/Sex/Severity says: I recognize the MANIFESTATION of the undeviating Justice in all the circumstances of my life. Manifestation thur Mars/Sex which suggest creativity caught my attention. Instead of food for the fetus the blood would be channeled to say an image to create something else?
Please pardon my rambling. But, Is this a valid interpretation from someone who has never practiced Sex Magick?
Love is the Law Love under Will.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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93,
Yeah, you have a point;
these ATUS are interchangeable depending on your point of view. I am referring to the Hebrew letter Teth which equals = 9 (as the Astral plane). The source of birth and manifestation. On the Tree of life Yesod would correspond to the reproductive organs of a woman hence the source of blood. Either which way you look at the Atus there both feminine. 
Love is the Law love under will.
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@Fraterdeen said
"Yeah, you have a point;
these ATUS are interchangeable depending on your point of view."I suppose that's true in the sense that it's true of all facts soever
But I certainly wouldn't agree that they are interchnaeable or according to convenience of the moment. Different schools of Tarot assign them one way or another.
Historically, Strength / Lust (or the equivalent) was always XI and Justice / Adjustment was always VIII. Yet the former is clearly Leo and the latter Libra, which seems to disturb the otherwise perfect Zodiac distribution of the 12 Simple letters. Three different Exempt Adepts emerging from the Golden Dawn, all saw this problem and undertook to solve it.
Waite and Case, presuming all other attributions were correct based on the Sepher Yetzirah, found the easiest solution to be swapping the numbers on those two cards - presuming it was a blind.
Crowley, receiving Third Order instruction that Tzaddi is not The Star, discovered that the attributions of Heh and Tzaddi had been wrong - that instead of being Aries and Aquarius respectively, they were Aquarius and Aries respectively. Once this discovery was made, there was no longer any reason to swap XI and VIII on Leo and Libra - in fact, it would then have broken the system! - since IV and XVII were also sequentially swapped, and Leo-Libra (pivoting around Virgo) were exactly matched by Aquarius-Aries (pivoting around Pisces).
But yes, I got that the most important point in your numeration was the 9 value of Teth, not the trump number.
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Thank You Hoornet, Thank You Jim.
I went back and edited my first post. If I could go back and edit the second one and get away with I WOULD!
"Quote Hoornet:
ATU VIII = Lamed
ATU XI = Teth
At least that is what I'm told."Yes, this is correct. My first exposure to Magick was BOTA. I was in a rush when I wrote the above and fell back to in to an old habit pattern.
"Quote Jim:
But I certainly wouldn't agree that they are interchangeable or according to convenience of the moment. Different schools of Tarot assign them one way or another. "I confused my symbol sets. I have been told here before, it is best to stick with One Internal set of Symbols.
My apologies for taking everyone off the topic. This may be better suited for another tread.Love is the Law Love under will.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Crowley, receiving Third Order instruction that Tzaddi is not The Star, discovered that the attributions of Heh and Tzaddi had been wrong - that instead of being Aries and Aquarius respectively, they were Aquarius and Aries respectively. Once this discovery was made, there was no longer any reason to swap XI and VIII on Leo and Libra - in fact, it would then have broken the system! - since IV and XVII were also sequentially swapped, and Leo-Libra (pivoting around Virgo) were exactly matched by Aquarius-Aries (pivoting around Pisces)."
If only it were that simple.
Crowley's Star/Emperor switch is slightly different from that of Lust/Adjustment. The latter switch corrects both the sequence of the zodiac and the Hebrew alphabet at the same time. The former switch does not. By moving the Star and Emperor cards around you can have either the the zodiac or the Hebrew alphabet in sequence but not at the same time.
If Crowley had assinged Aries to the Star and Aquarius to the Emperor (obviously wrong), then the system would have been perfectly balanced. As it stands there's a small kink in it.
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@Her said
"Crowley's Star/Emperor switch is slightly different from that of Lust/Adjustment. The latter switch corrects both the sequence of the zodiac and the Hebrew alphabet at the same time. The former switch does not. By moving the Star and Emperor cards around you can have either the the zodiac or the Hebrew alphabet in sequence but not at the same time."
What lines up are the Trump numbers against the sequence of the Hebrew letters. When you swap Heh-Tzaddi and Teyth-Lamed, the Trump numbers become: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"What lines up are the Trump numbers against the sequence of the Hebrew letters. When you swap Heh-Tzaddi and Teyth-Lamed, the Trump numbers become: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18."
This is my point exactly. Following the natural order of the Tarot trumps creates a balanced double loop in the Hebrew alphabet but only one loop in the sequence of the zodiac.
If you want to correct the zodiac sequence you have to break the order of the Hebrew alphabet and the Tarot trumps.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@Jim Eshelman said
"This provides an interesting basis for one aspect of a distinctly Hebraic tantra from the woman's point of view"
My grandmother taught me of a sort of Hebraic Tantra involving Lilith as the focus. According to her, Lilith was a manifestation of Binah/Saturn. She was the devourer of Adam's seed in the same way that Saturn devoured His children - & the same reason why witches symbolically ate children on their Sabbath - it was the "Fresh Blood of a Child". She also taught me that Lilith was an aspect of the Shekinah & that the image of Her(Shekinah) descending upon a Adam on the Sabbath(Saturn-day) was a symbol for Woman striding Man during intercourse...this is why Lilith was angered by not getting to be on top - for it was her rightful place...all of this, though, had to occure during the Full Moon of a Woman's cycle - for that, in It's Severity as well as It's Understanding, is what Lilith represents.
R.E.D.
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Fascinating stuff from everyone here. Some musings taking flight therefrom:
On the topic of it being taboo, logically, since priesthood in the averse usually wants to keep things to itself and to disempower its flock, it suggests itself that cunnilingus during menstruation is somehow empowering. What kind of power? The power of independence perhaps, the power not to be so easily entranced by all sorts of memes - the meme of self, the memes of culture (including the priesthood's memes!). (This seems to me to be at least part of the point of the Mass of the Pheonix too!)
If something like this is true, then this would bring out the possibility of a neurochemical investigation into the composition of the substances in question, to see if any of the hormones or whatever might be related to the capacity of the brain to shake off entrancement. Again, what suggests itself to me in this regard is that you'd be looking for a threshold chemical thingy that has something to do with the survival instinct.
What I mean is, if what normally occludes our Godhead and our through-and-through connection with the world around us, is what the Austrialian mystic John Wren-Lewis called "a malfunction in consciousness", and if that malfunction has to do with a hyperactive or over-active survival mechanism, with a very strong, very pumped up protective ego that totally takes up our attention; and if that's linked with chemical combinations from sexuality capable of bringing the level of the survival ego down a bit, that might open up some new avenues of research into how the brain works.
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This excerpt from The Vedic Sexual Code has some interesting things to say concerning the hormonal composition of menstrual blood:
...it begins the discussion of menstruation on page 282 but the discussion of the chemical composition does not commence until page 285.
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"And lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thy hand[Yod] over the Red Sea, and divide it." - Exodus 14:16
R.E.D.
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@Red Eagle of Death said
"the image of Her(Shekinah) descending upon a Adam on the Sabbath(Saturn-day) was a symbol for Woman striding Man during intercourse...this is why Lilith was angered by not getting to be on top - for it was her rightful place"
"If the Ruby Star have shed its blood upon thee; if in the season of the moon thou hast invoked by the Iod and the Pe, then mayest thou partake of this most secret sacrament." - LXVI, v.5
"Up! The Ruddy clouds hang over thee! It is the storm. There is a flaming gash in the sky." - CCCLXX, v. 3-4
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@Red Eagle of Death said
""And lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thy hand[Yod] over the Red Sea, and divide it." - Exodus 14:16
R.E.D."
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