Abrahadabra
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"Yes... but add the Aleph back and it puts the first word into the future tense also: Aberah h'adevara means, "I shall create as I shall speak.""
Now, it makes perfect sense!
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I wonder if Pete Carroll derived his 8 Magicks from the aforementioned....
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"In the manuscript, the "G" has a very clear line on the top section, like ʛ
That's IPA for a "voiced uvular implosive", which sounds like a very good description of the arabic pronunciation of "qoph" (additionally, in many areas "qoph" is transiliterated as "g" or "gh").
EDIT: My rationale was also based on the previous verse, which says to "*listen *to the numbers + the words"" (emphasis added).
But, I also acknowledge that between the 'qoph' and the "v/y/gamma" at the end of the first line, it's all quite a stretch."
You acknowledge it's a stretch and I thought I would add that at no time was the articulation of this phoneme 'implosive' in any Semitic language. The theoretical historical pronunciation in Arabic was probably a voiced uvular plosive, and the g/gh transcription you refer to is sadly just a regular, boring old voiced velar plosive.
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@Dhakhair said
"You acknowledge it's a stretch and I thought I would add that at no time was the articulation of this phoneme 'implosive' in any Semitic language. The theoretical historical pronunciation in Arabic was probably a voiced uvular plosive, and the g/gh transcription you refer to is sadly just a regular, boring old voiced velar plosive."
Agreed on both counts.
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Another, simpler working of the top line could be (although I am sure others have worked this out before):
4638ABK24aLGMOR3Y
46, 38, and 24 each stand for "X" (as a clue to the second row).
ABK = aleph-beth-kaph = 1+2+20 = 23
alGMOR = aleph-lamed-gimel-mem-vav-resh = 1+30+3+40+6+200 = 280
3Y = 3 x 10 = 3023+280+30 = 333
Of course, as gimel, it could no longer refer to "the moon". Gamor could mean "perfected" in Hebrew or "united" in Arabic. And "Abk", "your father".
But, since it's not 418, it's not really on-topic anymore...
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Another, simpler working of the top line could be (although I am sure others have worked this out before):
4638ABK24aLGMOR3Y
46, 38, and 24 each stand for "X" (as a clue to the second row).
ABK = aleph-beth-kaph = 1+2+20 = 23
alGMOR = aleph-lamed-gimel-mem-vav-resh = 1+30+3+40+6+200 = 280
3Y = 3 x 10 = 3023+280+30 = 333
Of course, as gimel, it could no longer refer to "the moon". Gamor could mean "perfected" in Hebrew or "united" in Arabic. And "Abk", "your father".
But, since it's not 418, it's not really on-topic anymore..."
Just curious to hear a perspective: do you choose vav vs. ayin for Latin "O" depending on the result? Would you mix them in a single calculation, i.e., would you ever give O the value 70 in one place and 6 in another?
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My personal perspective would be phonetic based, and my Hebrew pronunciation is (probably overly) influenced by Arabic. So O=ayin doesn't generally compute for me. I chose vav, because it seemed like a logical semitic construction to me. But I have no intellectual issue with an argument that uses O=ayin.
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"My personal perspective would be phonetic based, and my Hebrew pronunciation is (probably overly) influenced by Arabic. So O=ayin doesn't generally compute for me. I chose vav, because it seemed like a logical semitic construction to me. But I have no intellectual issue with an argument that uses O=ayin."
The arguement isn't so much that A'ayin=O as that A'ayin stands in the same place in the Hebrew alphabet as O stands in descendant alphabets. Also, the oldest (primitive) form of A'ayin actually was an O shape (a circle, presumably for "eye").
Hence the frequent Qabalistic substitution. Cf. for example the Greek Omicron = 70.
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Thanks! that makes sense.
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Oh, I got one I came up with a while ago.
The riddle in chapter 2
4638 ABK 24 aLʛMOR 3Y
x 24 89 RPSTOVAL.4 times 6 is 24. 3 times 8 is 24. "x" is the 24th letter. 89 is the 24th prime number.
So I map the first 26 primes to the English alphabet, and I get...
RPSTOVAL 61+53+67+71+47+70+2+37= 417, and I think I've got nothing, and then I realize that I left off the "period" at the end of RPSTOVAL. If you give it a value of "1", you suddenly get 418.
(although I'm not sure I get the ABK, the aLʛMOR, or the 3Y - although "ABK" sounds like Arabic for "your father" and "aLʛMOR" Arabic for "the moon", also a surah of the Qur'an of the same name)"
Sorry for the long quote but I couldn't get myself to edit this masterpiece;)
I was taught by a very wise person that the answer to this puzzle is 424. He said when I figured it out I would know why:p
Anyway, I haven't figured it out yet:p