Good or Evil
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@Alrah said
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@Qemuel said
"Your point of view is that of wanting peace, but did you not know, the only way to achive peace is to have war to get to the final product? If one wants peace, they have to make war to achieve it."If you want peace then you have to BE peace."
the world, society, the lies that you were told, they forbid you to be at peace
if you knew peace, your body itself would not be able to handle it, you would be "Holy"
Peace is only awarded after a long fought battle, there can not be peace unless a war took place before.
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@Alrah said
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I see no-one forbidding me peace. Here I am, in my small warm flat with a spectacular view outside. Snow is carpeting the world with white, and the sun and shadow dapples it yellow and blue. My birds are fed. And I'm happily eating my lunch with a cup of chamomile tea. There is no war here, except those created by the shadows of your own mind, and only you can see those."
if i lived in such a shallow world as u....i guess i would have peace as well
how doez it feel though
to be so blind....not even too notice the stringz that puppet u?
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@Alrah said
"Do you imagine that you're confronting me?
"i imagine u [sp]....as a scared....lost...little child....a child that sufferz [sp] from a delusion where u have something figured out...a child that believez [sp] they r [sp] big inspite the factz [sp] of the world around them.
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93,
Qemuel wrote:
"to be so blind....not even too notice the stringz that puppet u?"
None of us are puppets. We are enacting our wills. In many instances, we don't see what it is we're doing, or see the whole of it, so we create the illusion that we are puppets of powerful forces.
But it is an illusion we're in, if we believe such things to be true. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law .. for there isn't anything else to 'obey.'
93 93/93,
Edward
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@Edward Mason said
"93,
Qemuel wrote:
"to be so blind....not even too notice the stringz that puppet u?"
None of us are puppets. We are enacting our wills. In many instances, we don't see what it is we're doing, or see the whole of it, so we create the illusion that we are puppets of powerful forces.
But it is an illusion we're in, if we believe such things to be true. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law .. for there isn't anything else to 'obey.'
93 93/93,
Edward"
sum1 [sp] iz [sp] alwayz [sp] in control....if it iz [sp] not u [sp] pulling the stringz [sp]...than who iz> [sp]?
it iz [sp] an illusion.....az [sp] u [sp] r [sp] an illusion...az **[sp]**thiz **[sp]**world iz [sp] an illusion...and the stringz [sp] that bind reality together...iz [sp] an illusion
u [sp] call the powerful forces illusions.....when in truth....they are what iz [sp] real....it iz [sp] u [sp] that doez [sp] not exist.
if there iz [sp] nothing to "obey"....if there iz [sp] no order....than thier iz [sp] no reason to allow moral or any other type of order to enter our livez [sp]...or any one elses....could u [sp] imagine the chaos this world would be in? if your view of the law took hold?
0=2 amiright [sp]?
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@Alrah said
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@Qemuel said
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@Alrah said
"Do you imagine that you're confronting me?"confronting weakness? what kind of battle front would that be?"
One that would still be waged inside the confines of your own skull, and simply the product of your imagination."
i puppet u [sp]....do u [sp] not keep replying to me?
u [sp] really are simple....so simple u [sp] think ur [sp] complex...
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Qemuel, 93,
"if there iz nothing to "obey"....if there iz no order....than thier iz no reason to allow moral or any other type of order to enter our livez...or any one elses....could u imagine the chaos this world would be in? if your view of the law took hold?"
Read my post again. I did NOT say "there is (or 'iz') nothing to obey," nor that there should be no order. So, what you think would happen if my view of the Law took hold would not occur, because I am not advocating what you perceived.
I think you enjoy strange games, as with your manipulation of spelling, or your twisting of my words. I don't think you are very seriously engaged with your own life.
You're the puppet.
93 93/93,
Edward
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@Frater Aster Lux said
"Once "you" actually make contact with what has been pulling the strings, "you" realize that "you" haven't been in control your whole life.
Your on a Thelemic discussion board. If you don't already expect the answer you get back from any one here, it's because you haven't read enough of the source material."
i see what ur [sp] saying....basically put...me being an a [sp] occultist, like crowley, i have no right to post to express myself or my beliefs cause they might differe from urs [sp]....would crowley be this arguement in this thread as well?
what is the difference between a christian persecuting me or a thelemic [sp]? ...... nothing.
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@Edward Mason said
"Qemuel, 93,
"if there iz nothing to "obey"....if there iz no order....than thier iz no reason to allow moral or any other type of order to enter our livez...or any one elses....could u imagine the chaos this world would be in? if your view of the law took hold?"Read my post again. I did NOT say "there is (or 'iz') nothing to obey," nor that there should be no order. So, what you think would happen if my view of the Law took hold would not occur, because I am not advocating what you perceived.
I think you enjoy strange games, as with your manipulation of spelling, or your twisting of my words. I don't think you are very seriously engaged with your own life.
You're the puppet.
93 93/93,
Edward"
am i the puppet? did i not control ur [sp] emotions? people seldom see the stringz [sp] that r [sp] being pulled.
who holdz [sp] the most truth? it certainly can not be u [sp].
twisting of words and spelling....manipluation of spelling and words.......what iz [sp] the difference between a spell and words? iz [sp] there any? can it be written in something az [sp] simple on a forum...and reading them aloud in ur [sp] mind...doez [sp] it not activate the spell?
if i am the puppet....who would be pulling my stringz [sp]?
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@Alrah said
"There's reality - that we are two people having a discussion on a forum.
And there's a fantasy world you think is real. You keep talking to a product of your imagination, so it's a pretty strange conversation from my side. I'm just curious as to whether you're going to come out of it any time soon.
"iz [sp] that what thiz [sp] iz [sp] called....a discussion? i must read up more upon thiz [sp] subject.
what fantasy world r [sp] u [sp] referring 2 [sp]?
the product of my imagination....do u [sp] not know what the power of the mind can achieve? how r [sp] u [sp] still a child in thiz [sp] game?
come out of what? out of thiz [sp] delusion u [sp] call reality....3 yearz [sp]
what iz [sp] more interesting iz [sp] how u [sp] really believe u [sp] r [sp] something...but i have not quite figured out what that "something" iz [sp]...lol
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@Qemuel said
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@Frater Aster Lux said
"Once "you" actually make contact with what has been pulling the strings, "you" realize that "you" haven't been in control your whole life.Your on a Thelemic discussion board. If you don't already expect the answer you get back from any one here, it's because you haven't read enough of the source material."
i see what ur saying....basically put...me being an a occultist, like crowley, i have no right to post to express myself or my beliefs cause they might differe from urs....would crowley be this arguement in this thread as well?
what is the difference between a christian persecuting me or a thelemic? ...... nothing."
First you put other people down then when you feel put down you cry
You need to listen to that cry for within it there may be more poser than you presumed.
People have faught many wars to have peace, but instead they had the semblence of peace when there was not peace but other wars and rumors of wars.
Once some people find peace and the beauty within themselfs, only then will peace start to emerge as others have not found that peace.
The thing is people do not understand peace.
In peace there is no good or bad, there is no love or hate, there is nothing but enlightenment.So when I say may peace be with you I am merely saying let you be enlightened.
PS: not spell checked.
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@Qemuel said
"what is the difference between a christian persecuting me or a thelemic? ...... nothing."
Yes, let's start saying you're persecuted when someone doesn't agree with you on a web forum. I don't know how old you are but your running around calling people puppets makes you look like some kid purposefully trying to troll this forum. And, you've pretty much obliterated any chance/sense of intellectual conversation with your approach/ message of you being in control/having the truth about what is/is not real with everyone else being puppets.
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@kuniggety said
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@Qemuel said
"what is the difference between a christian persecuting me or a thelemic? ...... nothing."Yes, let's start saying you're persecuted when someone doesn't agree with you on a web forum. I don't know how old you are but your running around calling people puppets makes you look like some kid purposefully trying to troll this forum. And, you've pretty much obliterated any chance/sense of intellectual conversation with your approach/ message of you being in control/having the truth about what is/is not real with everyone else being puppets."
I wish I could give you a high five right now!
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@Qemuel said
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@Alrah said
"Do you imagine that you're confronting me?"i imagine u....as a scared....lost...little child....a child that sufferz from a delusion where u have something figured out...a child that believez they r big inspite the factz of the world around them."
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Qemuel said
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@Alrah said
"Do you imagine that you're confronting me?"i imagine u....as a scared....lost...little child....a child that sufferz from a delusion where u have something figured out...a child that believez they r big inspite the factz of the world around them."
ADMINISTRATOR'S NOTE
I'm issuing a first warning to you. This is starting to cross the line of personal attack, and I'm warning you before it gets more serious. I know Alrah can take care of herself, but this forum isn't a place for personal attack.And, while you're at it... Please clean up your spelling. This forum is a classroom of College of Thelema. In a physical classroom, every one of your posts would have been marked in red ink and handed back to you are failed. We're going to start marking them here!
But... just to be clear... the warning is for your belligerence."
fuck you
and fuck your forum
how about that for good spelling
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@Qemuel said
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@Vlad said
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@Qemuel said
"thiz subject brang up about hitler earlier. 2 be bunt, if he did not exist and confirm to who he was suppose to be, the earth as we know it, would not be the same today. so was he in his True Will? i believe so."
So if you rape someone, she may (and in the end will) become alot stronger because of that. So, go and rape people! This is the logic of the dark ones"depends, what if she ends up leading a nation? or end up learning martial arts and saving someone elses life.
what about the rapist....what if after that rape he goes home and feels guilty...ends up changing his life around completely and vows to do good instead of evil.
u never realize what will end up doing good
even YOUR hardships in life mold YOU into who you will in the end."
I am glad of everything that has been done to me, but I will never accept it again.