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    Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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    sk4p
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    I just acquired that last week but haven't dug into it properly yet, but I could have sworn he said he was laid off or something, but his family had enough financial security to get by for the duration, so he said "no time like the present". I got the impression from the few pages I've read so far that he did feel like employment would have been a liability.

    Wait, it's on my phone in Kindle form, let's see!

    "I commenced this Operation in an apartment to which we had moved and had found ourselves stuck when I was made redundant."

    And

    "It was fully my intent to take advantage of an "accidental exile" in which my family was situated at the start of this Operation [...] it seemed the only opportunity I had received in thirty years to perform the Abramelin under such ideal circumstances."

    Hmmm.

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    • B Bereshith

      Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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      Al-Shariyf
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      He ended up getting a really crappy job.

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      • B Bereshith

        Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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        @Al-Shariyf said

        "He ended up getting a really crappy job."

        Ahh, fair enough. Like I said, I hadn't dug far enough in yet, but at least at the outset I thought he was actually doing the "full-time Adept" gig we would all dream of. 😄

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        • B Bereshith

          Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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          Al-Shariyf
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          "Ahh, fair enough. Like I said, I hadn't dug far enough in yet, but at least at the outset I thought he was actually doing the "full-time Adept" gig we would all dream of. "

          Ha nah. Close though. You're gonna love it. I can't put it down.

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          • B Bereshith

            Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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            @Al-Shariyf said

            "FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

            www.aftertheangel.com

            I got it last weekend and have been glued to it.

            I hope this helps 😉"

            Downloading it to my Kindle now.

            Thank you for the link.

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            • B Bereshith

              Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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              Al-Shariyf
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              You're welcome.

              I feel compelled to pray we each take on this operation, in this lifetime, with strength and success, Lord willing. Enjoy.

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              • B Bereshith

                Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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                Seth Rah
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                @Frater INRI said

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                @Al-Shariyf said
                "FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

                www.aftertheangel.com

                I got it last weekend and have been glued to it.

                I hope this helps 😉"

                Downloading it to my Kindle now.

                Thank you for the link."

                Me too. I can't wait to read.

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                • B Bereshith

                  Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  Though not of book length, you might want to see the the excerpts from The Magical Record of BROTHER PROSERPINUS during his Season of the Performance of The SACRED MAGICK of ABRAMELIN the MAGE in Black Pearl No. 6.

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                  • B Bereshith

                    Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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                    Al-Shariyf
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                    helema.org/publications/bp/bp_set_05-09.pdf

                    😉

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                    • B Bereshith

                      Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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                      I feel I should point out that there's a common misconception that the original Book of Abra-melin suggests you MUST go on some kind of hermitage and completely disconnect from all your affairs to do this ritual.
                      That's not true. If you read the text, it states that while that would probably be the EASIEST way to do it, you can do it in almost any circumstance, even if you're a servant or laborer, and it describes ways one should try to compensate.

                      I held down a job all through my period of doing the K&C of the HGA.

                      93!

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                      • B Bereshith

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                        @Swamiji said

                        "I feel I should point out that there's a common misconception that the original Book of Abra-melin suggests you MUST go on some kind of hermitage and completely disconnect from all your affairs to do this ritual.
                        That's not true. If you read the text, it states that while that would probably be the EASIEST way to do it, you can do it in almost any circumstance, even if you're a servant or laborer, and it describes ways one should try to compensate.

                        I held down a job all through my period of doing the K&C of the HGA.

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                        I agree.
                        It is my observation that **ceremonial **magick has too great an influence on many of us. Ceremonies are just one phase; you know, wandering around in the dark with attire any normal child would be really scared of etc... LOL

                        Ceremonial stuff is OK, but not absolutely necessary. I know an Adept who did the HGA operation while abroad in military base. Go figure.

                        It can be done, simply because HGA is not bound by physical body, circumstances or environment, and neither are we.

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                        • B Bereshith

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                          @Al-Shariyf said

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                          I feel compelled to pray we each take on this operation, in this lifetime, with strength and success, Lord willing. Enjoy."

                          Abramelin operation or the HGA one?

                          If you mean the later, I wholeheartedly agree.

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                          • B Bereshith

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                            Al-Shariyf
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                            "Abramelin operation or the HGA one?

                            If you mean the later, I wholeheartedly agree"

                            I was not clear but I was implying successfully completing K&C of the HGA, no matter what method of attainment one chooses.

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                            • B Bereshith

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                              @Al-Shariyf said

                              "I was not clear but I was implying successfully completing K&C of the HGA, no matter what method of attainment one chooses."

                              I thought so.
                              I agree.

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                              • B Bereshith

                                Has anyone developed a workable method to achieve K&C that doesn't involve a month of secluded free time?

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                                @Al-Shariyf said

                                "FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

                                www.aftertheangel.com

                                I got it last weekend and have been glued to it. "

                                Ehm, I'd like to share my thoughts on the subject:

                                I read it, the diary entries were a bit boring to read, but the end is worth the while.

                                Author did force it a bit, in my opinion, and I think it is better to attain K&C of HGA prior attempting such an Operation.
                                Also, author did it in 2004 I think, when the more complete translation has not yet been available. I'd recommend the new translation (Georg Dehn et al), it actually is more informative, IMO.

                                But, all in all, it is good to see that it can be done under the fire of mundane shitty job.

                                The reference of the "big hole in the chest" and "there is no one here" after the attainment is more or less how I'd describe post K&C of HGA scenario.

                                Tnx again for sharing the link. 😄

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