College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Well, if they join a Thelemic order, they'll probably be sucked toward doing their Will sooner or later, so it's a net effect of more people not doing their will being turned toward doing their will, than the other way around. So it's a win-win situation.

"What is thy will" and "To what end" until the question is fully solved is one of the best shit-tests for yourself out there. Saying Will before such a basic activity such as eating brings this idea of Thelema to every aspect of your life.

Sometimes I find myself mindlessly doing... anything at all. And I say: "what is thy will", to my lower self, then, "to what end" in the same formulation as Will, until I am able to create a satisfactory answer for myself. Great trick to help you 'snap out of it'.

Hi Frater B:. H:.,

  I've read through your book and it seems to be a perfect example of Tav phenomena. Sorry :disappointed: and I have experienced Tav phenomena a great deal in my life.

Thank you! Definitely will ponder this aethyr some more.

My bad. And I will buy your book definitely I have found those in my Weiser V&the V as well. The AURUM is something I found in the back the Tree of Life in the back of V& the V, in the Weiser one at least on p. 253, on the top part of Tiphereth.

93 gang,

 As of late I have been working on some personal spiritual stuff and I got a bit of a brainwave. The ARARITA, VITRIOL, INRI formulae are familiar to most people, but something has been calling me to research the MERCURIUS formula, attributed to Binah in Liber 418 (The Vision and the Voice). 

 I can't find what this abbreviation means anywhere. Nor can I find anything about the SULPhUR, SALT or AURUM formula. Are these like, degree sensitive or is there anywhere that could be a clue for me, to what they mean? 

Thanks.

AFAIK, Gunther had been practicing AA work independently before meeting Motta. There doesn't seem to be any record of him being initiated by a legit lineage until Motta.

Lol. Just curious about this - has anyone you know worked with this half-formed letter system in any way, or is it in your opinion totally not worth pursuing?

Hi friends,

 Just thinking about Liber Trigrammaton brought me to thinking about the letters in this liber, as listed here: [lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0027.html](http://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0027.html). I am curious as to how to use the English or Latin letters this way, maybe as two-letter combinations in the context of I Ching hexagrams? Has anyone here played around with this, or know how to start working with this "Latin qabalah"?

Hi folks,

Here are some qabalistic things I've been thinking about lately.
247 (therion) + 156 (babalon) = 403. 419 (hadit) + 56 (nu) = 475. Would 72 then be a 'secret key' of the Star Ruby? Then 'apo pantos kakodaimonos' would make sense lol....

Does anyone else find that 813 (IAO + beth), plus obvious other attribution ararita, is a multipurpose number that isn't just planetary, but also elemental? Because if it's planetary, then whither πυραμίς / αναστασιν (resurrection) and φαλλός / περιτομης (circumcision), which are more 65ish in my view? Does anyone else relate the 813 formula to the Eucharist of the 6 Elements i.e. the Mass?

Also, east = i3bt = IChBTh = 419, same as HDITh. Yeah, I know that 3 has more of an 'a' sound (am I getting it right?) but something made me put cheth there.

Any thoughts?

Interesting that dw3w is tomorrow, "the time of dw3t" in Egyptian, a homonym for the other common meaning of dw3t / Tuat (Gunther, 67). Might be etymologically related to devekut?

Of course, we all use various interpretations - but since Indian and Mongol are not religions, I often had my doubts about the Din = Judaism concept. After all, it was Aiwass who wrote Liber AL

Thelema and raising kids? When I start a family, I would put them in the same sorts of inner city public schools I went to so that they can hang out with the neighborhood kids. They will basically go there to play hopscotch and join a clique. If they don't get along, we'll try different settings and maybe get a 'homeschooling certificate' so my mom can watch them from a distance while they run loose. My kids will go to an Asian 'Saturday school' to learn actual academics, since our school quality is abysmal. I'm going to be the cool mom who doesn't have rules or curfews, and encourages kids to play Ouija at sleepovers.

The purpose of parents is to act as a favorable interface between children, who are deprived of legal rights, and the adult world that judges them. Parents need to advocate for their kids before the law, teach them how not to get beat up, how to deconstruct the kyriarchy, and how to Take Care of Business in an often-hostile world. Parents must be willing to march down to the school and push the staff around a bit if there's any nonsense going on (like having to put one's bag through a scanner, cell phone and metal objects bans, being locked down between classes, staff hassling kids for carrying a Swiss army knife etc). Parents need to advocate against youth curfews, truancy officers etc, and bail the kid out of jail if necessary. Even social stuff, like getting into 21+ clubs when they're in HS. 

 Otherwise, the kids are on their own. They do what they please except for disrespecting adults. They have to take responsibility if they're victimized by anyone, with the knowledge that parents will be on their side, with a good lawyer, when they beat up the bully. Similarly, they have to take responsibility if they're caught e.g. drinking outside the home when the 'world' considers them 'underage'. The material rights are access to a stipend, home office of whatever nature, legal defense, online bank account, eventual initiation sponsorship, and vehicle if applicable. A larger stipend will be given after they've proven capable of a full-time job. 

  The responsibilities involve support, as much as practicable, of the extended family in the future. Not myself, but the ragtag low-income individuals that will invariably be connected to the child. My family, BF's family, nutty neighbors, etc.

I think you can check out "The Paris Working" if you want to do some sex-related scrying.

Thanks for posting that, Takamba.

Crowley's explanation was sort of what I'm critiquing - from my personal understanding, the terms Mongol and Din do not seem to refer to Confucianism and Judaism. Mongols were hostile to things Chinese, and I've only really heard Din used in an Islamic naming context (muhajidin, Saladin, Nasruddin..). In Judaism, I've only heard Beit Din. Of course, we should all have our own views on Liber AL, based on our own awareness.

Binyamin, if we go with my idea, definitely India and Buddhist nations were affected by much warfare and colonialism in the early 20th century as well. But you are quite right that it is about getting rid of old things. (Also, I guess, harmonizing them because there are 6 of them, after all.) I like to pick things apart, though, since it is fun.

IMO, were governments.

  Two of the biggest governments on the earth in 1904, both to fall in a couple of years, were Manchu (upper classes intermarried with Mongols, though culturally distinct) - dominated China, which ruled East and Central Asia, and the Ottoman Empire that ruled West Asia, North Africa and Southeast Europe. Neither of them were that 'evil in the scheme of things (well, neither is the litany of faiths...), but they were going to fall respectively in 1911 and 1922. 11 years apart. Crazy.

  Din is an interesting term, and I equated it to the Ottoman Empire. Din is a word in Arabic similar to the concept of Tao. The top leadership / Din of the Islamic kind was the Ottoman empire. The Ottomans followed Din quite a bit, but Din was not enough to keep them in power. 

  Eventually, Crowley's homeland stepped into the lives of both the 'Mongol' and 'Din' nations. Old Ra-Hoor-Khuit only said what he could see in the future, and the ultimate seed of change within these explosive geopolitical conflicts.

 What do you folks think, and what do you think this says about the "Mongol and Din" empires of today - our modern-day superpowers / NATO and the like?

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  "It" seems to me that -it indicates the active speaker (which is of course feminine in the New Aeon). "It" being numerically solar is further proof of this. Also, 718 indicates the change in aeon in another way of counting. (Or am I totally getting the 718 thing wrong...)

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"There should be a manual where it is said when you're ready for whatever. I don't like the ego trap, but nor do I like the trap of depression, which doesn't vanish in higher states, only becomes different, sometimes alot more weird. And the funniest part is that I don't know if it is better to be mundane or meditative"

So true. There definitely needs to be a manual.

Thanks for your detailed answer, Jim.

"What i might say (and, again, this isn't to contradict the general answer at the top) is that, in throwing oneself into occultism, one shouldn't fail to get on with one's normal adult maturation and the reasonable stages of experiencing and dealing with life. "

What I meant was stuff like medical / law / biz school and the concomitant pausing of 'really being involved' that tends to go along with that for young professionals: the process of internships, analyst (bitch) jobs and probably moving around a lot, MCAT, bar exam, etc, that would severely cut down on the time alloted to spiritual work.

Thank you - I did not mean to suggest that many people will become Masters during this aeon. I was mostly speaking of Adeptus Minor status, that of course being the 'typical' success of Those Who Work. And I certainly agree that it is a bad idea to compare one's Great Work to another's.

93 folks,

 The KCHGA is often described as a 'spiritual puberty' for the aspirant. Although the age and speed of physical puberty varies from kid to kid, we can all agree that it generally takes place around a certain age range. Neuroscience has also recently discovered that actual adolescence, as defined by brain development, actually lasts until the age of 25 or even 30 rather than the age-18 cutoff for legal adulthood. This fits in with our concept of the Saturn return, as well as being more congruent with the voting age in ancient societies such as Rome. 

 While spirituality is perhaps more fluid and open than biology, I'd like to open up a discussion about the various classic stages in spiritual development and their corresponding age / life stage / ranges - or even whether there is one. Whether we describe it in alchemical stages or otherwise, there is a definitely a sort of pattern that is common to people in their spiritual journeys. 

 I know I've asked a question like this before, but at what age or life stage did everyone here start involving themselves in the occult, becoming earnest in their study, practicing effective thaumaturgy, acquiring spirit guides and the like? Should this be done after one is established in his or her career, or before? For those who know, on average, when do people attain stages such as Adeptus Minor, Exempt Adept, Magister Templi etc. and how does this fit in with the average career journey (Adeptus Minor being the young journeyman, while Magister Templi might be on the verge of retirement)? 

Thanks for your insight.