College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

well, lesser and greater banishing pentagram rituals, with the LBRP daily,
also you may wish to add sage to your incense.
As well as nag champa.

Also, ya know, you can always ask Lucifer for advice or sway in power with banishing.
one of the tricks of reality is that Lucifer is a benign, positive being that only reflects
our inner wishes and desires.

And not dangerously so.. in your darkest dreams, you might wish to unleash
all the demonic energy into the overworld, connect it from your place to every
place that has them, and destroy the universe...

Lucifer would actually begin to banish your false will...

So LBRP, GBRP,

mAY wish to do some banishing with greater rituals first with your birth chart correspondance,
then with daily planetary correspondance..

and Hail Satan

Wow, a lot of bells are ringing with that - not all of them, but a lot of them. (Then again, I'm not the querent.) Thank you, Al-Shariyf.

The question was, "should I get back together (off a temporary break) with my fiance?"

The reading was done during the brief separation.

93, 93/93.

Sorry to semi-Necro this but I have an anecdotal incident.
I was very into Discordia over 20 years ago and while doing the normal 'urban shaman' routine common amongst those who lived in Betsit Britain at the time of the Second Summer of Love (read - every psychedelic whe could get) and one night I'd checked my bank balance and it was zero. I was fairly chemically altered and decided to ask Eris to stick some cash in there. I went around the block with my friend , had a vision of a huge bear for some god unknown reason,and came back and , of course, £230 (I'm hoping you all get the 23 reference ) was the balance when I rechecked it.
There was never any mention of that deposit on the statement either.
We found the words of power most effective in any prayer or request to be 'Eris is a babe'. Since she kinda likes that in a - happy pixie elf that can destroy your life and /or city walls - kinda way.
She asks that you enjoy yourself a lot and not to get upset about any pranks in my experience. Dont turn down her gifts or she will either stop playing or play a little rough. But keep a sense of humor when working with her and she is honestly delightful. Do . Not. Snub. Invite to the party. - there's precedent 😉

RAW had her related as far as I cam remember to pretty much every female archetype on the tree. To 'our lady of space' in some of his ideas in Cosmic Trigger , as a microcosm of Nuit. as the counterpoint of the Dwarf self /HGA , also as the Empress /Joyces Mother Goddess... I'm pretty sure he was obliged to use blinds but I think he was peaking a little too hard in that book as he himself admitted later.

93,

I don't think Crowley thought he was flawless, in fact he often stated that if he could attain to the higher grades then anyone else could do the same. He pointed out his 'flaws' in a few places.

You've also got to think about what a flaw is- is it something which hinders somebody, or is it something which your mind, fashioned by society has a problem with. Crowley's sexual activities are by no means normal when compared to society, however he wished to do these things and his partners were willing. As for his views on women and his occasional racism- it was a different time. He probably meant no offense by using the n word, it is just the language which was used. My grandmother is sometimes racist, however she does not mean anything harmful by it, in fact she would help anyone regardless of skin colour, yet describing the person afterwards she would use terms politically incorrect, again made taboo by society, perhaps rightfully so in this case.

His views on women, I do not know the context of the quote......

I believe Crowley was very egotistical at times, and did believe himself to be better than most people, and I believe at one time he was. Our society is no longer repressed like Victorian and post-victorian England and people are more interesting and perhaps more like 'Thelemites'.

You can choose to believe that everyone has imperfections- but what are you comparing it to? The perfect person as dictated by the rules of society, or the perfect human based upon an actual person you deem perfect?

I choose to think that as long as one is doing their will, then they are in every way perfect in their own unique way.

93, 93/93.

93, 93/93.

Sweet, thanks 😀

I think of my ego as the part that does the identifying, not what it identifies with.

For example, I can say in my head, "The ego is an illusion, we are all one." The part saying that is my ego.

I also think that different people have different relationships with the aspects of their subconscious. For one person, the processes and contents are mysterious and threatening. For another, they are not very far removed from regular consciousness.

Tying those two points together, conscious awareness of those contents is just the beginning. The real effort is forging that complementary relationship between those two sides--which, for the ego-heavy person, it might require letting go; while for the subconscious heavy person, it might require getting a grip. 😄

@Ash said

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And, while I'm on this topic, how about resources for learning about Gnana Yoga? That's another one that I don't feel I understand and would like to know more about.
"

Look into the books of Ramana Maharshi.

www.messagefrommasters.com/Ebooks/Bhagwan-Ramana-Books.htm

Thank you for the clarification.

As far as the choice of subforum... Maybe it was a mistake. I was thinking of these questions in relation to my own personality traits and the deeper involvement they've been having in my path, sort of like what was going on in the Four Worlds topic on this subforum.

93, 93/93.

@Dar said

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@RobertAllen said
"Failure and the pain have become sacraments.

No?"

I thought it was Old Aeon to flog and fast and strap yourself to the mast (like Turner)?"

Maybe it's New Aeon to regard all things, seemingly good and bad as sacraments. The old aeon idea is that self-torture was necessary to escape bad Karma, and to destroy that part of the self that was corrupt—but if nothing is really corrupt, and this includes failure and the pain...

I think it changes our whole relationship with spirit. Of course, I want to succeed and have pleasurable experiences, but for all of my desire in that direction I still fail, and there is pain. So maybe I just don't understand the deeper significance of the** failure and the pain**.

Love and Will

Thanks for clarifying that Jim. The references to Holy House, Holy Place, and Holiest One did bring to mind the supernals but I still had a hard time making sense of it.

I've only recently realized how much of a "werewolf" I am - even just with myself.

That does make sense 😄 Has to depend on where you are.

@Ash said

"**45. Then the adept was rapt away in bliss, and the beyond of bliss, and exceeded the excess of excess.

Also his body shook and staggered with the burden of that bliss and that excess and that ultimate nameless. They cried He is drunk or He is mad or He is in pain or He is about to die; and he heard them not.**"

Crazy boys charmed by silence and mystery and crazing about it, being enticed to follow as all the creatures before. The original creature, the dolphin, would not care at all about a meditating master's silent rigid trances. I know I, for one, have raged against the silent gates.

I am looking forward to it's return, when ever that may be.... more so if Liber VII: Liber Liberi vel Lapidis Lazuli is next up.

Thank you.

@Takamba said

"Evidence that (at least in this case) nigris makes assessment without investigation."
give it time. I hope to receive direction in where it may be found. I haven't assessed any evidence yet, or found any qualifying as so claimed. you never know what lies just around the corner. I used to be surrounded with atheists and agnostics. who would have known that i'd be partying with occultists and witches but a decade later and supporting spiritualists, readers and folk magicians through the better course of my life? wonders abound! 😄

Why anything?

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

@Jim Eshelman said

"My reason has almost nothing to do with where they came from. My reason is: They are beautiful. almost beyond comparison."

This was refreshing to read. I've seldom found anyone who reads Crowley to enjoy masterpieces of the English language, as I most astutely believe them to be. It seems most spend time with his writings to be able to say they've spent time with his writings, to justify entitlement to the Grades. If I've learned anything from Crowley, its a deeper understanding of English and how to appropriately apply mythological imagery to religious allegory.

But I digress as I can see that I am derailing the thread; I couldn't leave without showing some appreciation for your appreciation. 😉

Love is the law, love under will.

Thank you for the advice Av 😀 I will give it a shot.

93, 93/93.

finally something I get to chime in, if only because of convenient location.

I live in Colombia, close to the Amazon, and in late years it has become relatively common in these areas for indigenous tribes to host Ayahuasca/yage (DMT in ingested form, with MAOI) even for occidental outsiders and I happened to try it.

Before Yage, I had a lot of concepts in my head of the interconnection of everything in the universe, of the eternity of my soul, of good as the only true motor of things, and of all depressions a delusion, all of these were vague concepts and ideals but what Yage did was shift my mind so that in those 8 hours it had effect on me it became a certain experience, as certain as the keyboard I type on right now. it was a huge huge help, it is hard to stay within that mindset but I regard it as a sort of north star, no matter how deluded or depressed I might get by what happens I know that what is real, is what I experienced then. All flaws of character all confusions are but a convoluted form of this pure energy that animates me, that I felt so purely then.

Therefore, I would not class it on the same level as LSD or Psilocybin, I have not tried LSD but I have heard it is much like Psilocybin and I just dont think it's on the same category.

Ash, I too used to see Alcohol intoxication as a potentially aiding chemical before Yage, but after trying it, it became clear that all it did was intoxicate and dumb down aspects of my psyche, and any aspects that stood out simply did so because they were still working normally. In contrast, Yage truly heightened the better aspects of my being to a more spiritual level.

I have tried marijuana before and after Yage, and I have to say Yage affects how marijuana is synthetyzed in me, it has become a little bit hallucinogenic after Yage and has a slightly more spiritual bend to it.

I cannot imagine the experience of smoked DMT, since it's supposed to do the same it did to me in 8 hours, condensed in 15 minutes, DMT allegedly is pretty much just the biggest mindfuck you can(not) imagine, while Yage is seen as a motherly and caregiving experience in comparison.

Crowley allegedly used cocaine and other chemicals in his rituals, did he not leave behind any instructions on how to take them? all I have heard of psychedelics in a ritualistic enviroment comes from indigenous perspectives (well, and Mckenna), so it interests me what Crowley came up with from his own alternate background.