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  • M MMe

    I have a few questions to do 😊

    • The best moment of the day?
    • How much should it last?
    • Eyes open or closed?
    • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
    • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
    • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
    • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
    • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
    • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
    • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
    • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
    • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

    Thanks.

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    Hermitas
    wrote on last edited by
    #53

    Yes, actually performing it is always simply that much more powerful in my experience. It is the World of Action that gets included or not.

    Performing it mentally is "enough for your average day," but no more, in my opinion.

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    • M MMe

      I have a few questions to do 😊

      • The best moment of the day?
      • How much should it last?
      • Eyes open or closed?
      • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
      • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
      • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
      • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
      • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
      • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
      • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
      • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
      • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

      Thanks.

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      ForceFire
      wrote on last edited by
      #54

      The " Star Ruby" uses these same visual techniques. So now are we just talking about intent?

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      • M MMe

        I have a few questions to do 😊

        • The best moment of the day?
        • How much should it last?
        • Eyes open or closed?
        • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
        • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
        • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
        • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
        • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
        • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
        • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
        • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
        • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

        Thanks.

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        Jim Eshelman
        wrote on last edited by
        #55

        The sequence of tracing the lines distinguishes exactly which forces are being invoked or banishing.

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        • M MMe

          I have a few questions to do 😊

          • The best moment of the day?
          • How much should it last?
          • Eyes open or closed?
          • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
          • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
          • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
          • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
          • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
          • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
          • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
          • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
          • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

          Thanks.

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          ForceFire
          wrote on last edited by
          #56

          When I do the "star ruby" I draw a banishing pentegram line per line. I can also do this with my technique described above. Tracing over then lines over and over in the appropriate direction until it is burning in my mind. My biggest set back is doubt since these things can be so subtle for me.

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          • M MMe

            I have a few questions to do 😊

            • The best moment of the day?
            • How much should it last?
            • Eyes open or closed?
            • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
            • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
            • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
            • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
            • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
            • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
            • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
            • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
            • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

            Thanks.

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            Jim Eshelman
            wrote on last edited by
            #57

            @ForceFire said

            "When I do the "star ruby" I draw a banishing pentegram line per line."

            But there's no need in the Star Ruby, since it's just a bazooka blow-away banishing. Totally different concept, and a significantly different ritual in purpose and consequence.

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            • M MMe

              I have a few questions to do 😊

              • The best moment of the day?
              • How much should it last?
              • Eyes open or closed?
              • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
              • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
              • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
              • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
              • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
              • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
              • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
              • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
              • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

              Thanks.

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              ForceFire
              wrote on last edited by
              #58

              Well LBRP was my technique for the invocation. I was just making reference to the "Star Ruby" as an example of how I can simply imagine a pentagram.

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              • M MMe

                I have a few questions to do 😊

                • The best moment of the day?
                • How much should it last?
                • Eyes open or closed?
                • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
                • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
                • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
                • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
                • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
                • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
                • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
                • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
                • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

                Thanks.

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                Hermitas
                wrote on last edited by
                #59

                Well, yeah. And I've had experiences where just imagining the LRP strongly was an incredibly strong experience of it.

                But, imo, that last level, to the realm of physical action, completes the weight of it. It is a physical act of Will. The final blow.

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                • M MMe

                  I have a few questions to do 😊

                  • The best moment of the day?
                  • How much should it last?
                  • Eyes open or closed?
                  • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
                  • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
                  • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
                  • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
                  • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
                  • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
                  • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
                  • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
                  • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

                  Thanks.

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                  Hermitas
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #60

                  But like for everyday use, in my experience, going through it in your head works wonders, but when stuff starts going haywire, you kick it up a notch.

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                  • M MMe

                    I have a few questions to do 😊

                    • The best moment of the day?
                    • How much should it last?
                    • Eyes open or closed?
                    • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
                    • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
                    • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
                    • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
                    • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
                    • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
                    • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
                    • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
                    • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

                    Thanks.

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                    ForceFire
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #61

                    I am talking about LRP with the ONLY difference in creating the pentagrams. Plenty of others rituals use imagination as means to an end.
                    When I do the "Middle Pillar" do I have to draw circles at all the points? (No)

                    I am not saying I am right. I just wanna know why I am wrong.

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                    • M MMe

                      I have a few questions to do 😊

                      • The best moment of the day?
                      • How much should it last?
                      • Eyes open or closed?
                      • All the visualizations are to be done in first person? For example visualizing Kether I find myself in third person view, like seeing the whole scene from outside.
                      • The whole rite is to be done mentally too? If Yes, after how long time?
                      • I visualize Kether 13 inches over my head, is too far?
                      • Vibrating Malkuth I move my hand to the groin area with the index finger downward. Am I wrong?
                      • Is it to visualize the circle connecting the pentagrams?
                      • During the invocations of the Archangels I need to visualize also the pentagrams and the circle?
                      • Finished to visualize one Archangel(or pentagram) and go to the next, I need to visualize also the previous?
                      • Raphael's wand should be a simple one or the Hermetic Caduceus?
                      • The hexagram is to be visualize in gold, but what kind of material? Metal? Fire? Light?

                      Thanks.

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                      Hermitas
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #62

                      Nobody said you were "wrong." You got my opinion.

                      Experiment with it. I know what works for me.

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