College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Expected V.I.T.R.I.O.L. indeed!
I agree with him: there are different kinds of imitation. He could simply repeat the actions of his role model, or he could repeat that which originated the actions of his role model, i.e. doing his True Will. The latter is what I would call to "truly imitate Christ".
I wonder who those "prophets of this time" were. Not sure he was referring to Nietzsche, or at least not solely to him, as he used the word "prophets" (plural).

Oh, and I don't hate Christ. Neither did Crowley, as he expressed in his Confessions:

"I did not hate God or Christ, but merely the God and Christ of the people whom I hated."

I didn't spot any reference to the new aeon but in his book Mysterium Coniunctionis He also describes a personal God:

...For the spirit alone penetrates all things, even the most solid bodies. Thus the catholicity of religion, or of the true Church, consists not in a visible and bodily gathering together of men, but in the invisible, spiritual concord and harmony of those who believe devoutly and truly in the one Jesus Christ. Whoever attaches himself to a particular church outside this King of Kings, who alone is the shepherd of the true spiritual church, is a sectarian, a schismatic, and a heretic. For the Kingdom of God cometh not with observation, but is within us, as our Saviour himself says in the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke...
... “But you will ask, where then are those true Christians, who are free from all sectarian contagion?” They are “neither in Samaria, nor in Jerusalem, nor in Rome, nor in Geneva, nor in Leipzig,” but are scattered everywhere through the world, “in Turkey, in Persia, Italy, Gaul, Germany, Poland, Bohemia, Moravia, England, America, and even in farthest India..."

I also found many kabbalistic references in that book. His collected works are full of references from rosicrucians and alchemical studies.

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@Hermitas said

"Gnostics and Scientific Illuminists can be and sometimes are conflicted about their own ability to know reality through personal experience, yet it is the primary assumption of both Gnosticism and Illuminism."

Both of them (like all schools of thought) are ridiculous, ultimately.

"So first, that. Let it be a challenge to self-awareness."

It isn't. Interpretation or comprehension by the mind might encounter such a challenge and be foiled by it, but it's not a challenge to actual Self-awareness. 😉

"This Knowledge is not for all men; few indeed are called, but of these few many are chosen."

Liber Porta Lucis, v. 9

"——-

Second. Yeah, I have an ideal of remaining open, but some stuff is settled."

Cool.

"We are all connected “by Spirit” or “in Consciousness.” Settled. Within myself?"

"Within yourself." 😄 It depends upon one's apprehension of what it means to be "by Spirit" or "in Consciousness." If these are just intellectual comprehensions, then they are complete rubbish. Garbage. Filth. Ugh.

Beyond that...ask... 😜

PS
Takamba's second response here is absolutely fantastic! (for what my endorsement may be worth...)

I find that by taking the perspective we are dealing with Feminine/Masculine principles,
rather than a Male/Female manifestation thereof resolves the conflict.

Perhaps the flesh bits dangling , or not, between legs allows a person to resonate better with certain principles,
In a ritual context the image presented could be said to supersede the identify of the individual.

So, a "male human" might provide a better costume for the role, but, in a sense, you should be "ignoring the *body" in a ritual context.

*EDIT: changed tense of a word, and person to body

Don't let it kill ya

I can’t find anything particularly impressive though gematria isn’t my strong suit. I mean, there’s some stuff I could stretch, but it feels like a stretch. I’ll look at it some more when I have the time.

Probably the most interesting thing I can see is that, structurally, the third version is a combination of the first two, taking the middle part of Hadit’s version and placing it between the outside parts of Nuit’s version. But, you know, maybe I just have sex on the brain.

Perhaps there is more fruit in Egyptian language peculiarities, of which I know nothing.

I apologize for my idiotic sense of humor before, Hermitas. Here are some thoughts on that Jung quote, for whatever they may be worth...

"Shut your eyes so that you do not see the manifold, the outwardly plural, the tearing away and the tempting. There is only one way and that is your way; there is only one salvation and that is your salvation. Why are you looking around for help? Do you believe that help will come from the outside?"

These are definitely the words of an initiate. Especially the underlined query.

"Thou wast long seeking Me; thou didst run forward so fast that I was unable to come up with thee.
O thou darling fool! what bitterness thou didst crown thy days withal. Now I am with thee; I will never leave thy being."

"What is to come will be created in you and from you."

These not so much. That which is created will end. That which is born will die. That which is, always is, was and will be. Creation and birth have meaning only in relation to the concept of time and are thereby subject to anicca. Time is only a mirage within the seeming concatenation of our thoughts.

"But Thou art Eternity and Space; Thou art Matter and Motion; and Thou art the negation of all these things. For there is no Symbol of Thee. If I say Come up upon the mountains! the celestial waters flow at my word. But thou art the Water beyond the waters."

"Hence look into yourself. Do not compare, do not measure. No other way is like yours. All other ways deceive and tempt you. You must fulfill the way that is in you."

Back on track with this sequence of sentences. The road of initiation is inward.

"All day I sing of Thy delight; all night I delight in Thy song. There is no other day or night than this. Thou art beyond the day and the night; I am Thyself, O my Maker, my Master, my Mate!"

"You will not bear going your way. You always want to have at least one foot on paths not your own to avoid the great solitude."

These two sentences are extremely insightful and possibly of tremendous benefit to any adepts in training.
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"As if you were not yourself!"

See my comment before the previous one.

"Who should accomplish your deeds? Who should carry your virtues and your vices?"

"Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will." Every intentional act is a magical act. In the Hindu theory of karma, every intentional act produces karma. "Equilibrium is the basis of the work." Therefore, choose your acts carefully, mindfully. The Great Work is the solution of complexes. Only in the perfect stillness of mind is no production of karma, and it is the greatest lure for the HGA. "Hence look into yourself." Exactly.

I think we are all ready doing that.

As part and parcel to Nuit,
THAT which has been divided,
Naturally flows back to the source.

0 becomes 1,
a single verse becomes many;
Each beckoned, two
spin , turn, face
"The Sun"
Praise IT, Tell IT
What has been done !

" Where is there a hearth and warmth? "

every man and every woman is a star.

you are so much more then a bridge, you are all the space in between as well.

FWIW others are a mirror, showing you the lovely cha cha dance of life. two steps forward, one step back, one step forward two steps back, or something like that.

be happy that you dance.

"Let the Scarlet Woman beware! . . . if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known.
"

My interpretation with this has to do with a very exalted place of universal awareness in relation to true will, or harmonic intention. I don't believe it refers to a "woman" proper, but rather an exalted role the feminine energy provides (in both male and female) in relationship to true magick. So my personal interpretation is this refers to true magick, and if the intention of the event is in harmony with the universe, in harmony with all sentient beings - then the work is "aright", but if the intention is for the self only, it pushes the will of the universe against the aspirants "false" intention which I take in this context as a collapse of illumination into utter delusion.

Another concept to contemplate in meditation might be: "Re" incarnation is a misnomer. The "continuity of existence, the omnipresence of my body" suggest one and one incarnation alone, with many many many many mirrors I suppose. But I get ahead of myself.

"duty" - "dharma"

Another translation of the above quote: "And even considering your personal dharma as well, it is not right for you to hesitate. There is nothing better for a warrior than a fight based on dharma.” (Bg. 2.31)

Here's a good link:

d6.krishna.com/dharma-bhagavad-gita

@FiatYod said

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@Hermitas said
"Here it is... Not quite what I thought it was. I was looking for something to maybe work into music. But it is very Mary and not so much Nuit.

lus.google.com/101682148959375207668/posts/CdYUcA6CrE8

But my own poetic flame has been... um... uhhh..."

Well, as that article quotes from Crwoley's Confessions:

"I simply tried to see the world through the eyes of a devout Catholic"

So it seems like it wasn't really for Nuit.
A change of perspective is not only good for poetry, but it can actually be educational and enlightening. And as it ultimately leads you to understand others, you may say that it actually does have something to do with Nuit. 😉"

Mary is Nuit, you twig. Nuit is the Goddess. I can't even go into the correlations right now.

Moment to moment awareness conditions a lot of our relationship with the body, and speaking as someone who has experienced depersonalisation, a great deal of the time I think it's due to an inability to accept certain elements of the 'content' of those moments that creates the detachment that leads us to feel disconnected from the body.

Unwillingness to confront emotional aspects of one's everyday reality can manifest as fantasy, of which the complexes involved in anxiety are a subset. Rumination over the past, an impatience with the present, and projection into desired or feared future scenarios all can pull awareness from that less than ideal present, and once developed into a habit, depersonalisation can be an extreme result.

Personally I have found the Buddhist loving-kindness meditations to be extremely helpful. Superficially, it seems to be a wishy washy feel good bland sort of thing, but past the more shallow presentations of it, metta-bhavana has more profound aspects rarely articulated. The practice usually goes something like: think of someone you love, and feel a genuine sense of warmth, love and compassion for them, a friend, family member, etc. Once you have generated this feeling palpably, then move onto someone you like a little less, then someone you like even less, until you come to people you feel little of anything for. Past that is where it can get interesting. You then focus on people you find casually irritating, and then people you've had confrontations or more significant problems with, and try to generate the same level of compassion and love for them. Bland, simpering compassion works, but as a creative exercise, it's worth trying to find a perspective on the person in which you feel genuine, authentic kindness for that person. The practice is then extended to larger groups of people, the world, and eventually, all sentient beings.

Superficially, the practice is about being nicer to people. The effect it ends up having is rehabilitating one's relationships to mental objects (including one's perception and experience of the body) as all the people you think of during the practice are mental objects. This bleeds out into your moment to moment awareness more globally, as well as your perceptions of the world, so often conditioned by fear and other barely perceptible traumas that more methodical, rational analysis are far too slow to uncover. Further to that end, Jim has an essay in Pearls of Wisdom called Rehabilitating Subconsciousness that I found extremely helpful, and your friend may too. I hope she's doing better now.

For anyone interested, here's a paper in which researchers applied Buddhist loving-kindness meditation to treat schizophrenia, whose cluster of symptoms frequently include depersonalisation. Researchers found the practice to greatly reduce baseline symptoms in patients.

ocrates.berkeley.edu/~akring/JCP%20Johnson.et.al.2009.pdf

I just noticed some things and wanted to know if anyone else had done it that way.

Trust me, I'm really interested in seeing what comes of the Era of the Hierophant.

Or something tells me that someone isn't exactly done.

Thank you

My standard interpretation for Saturn transits to natal Neptune. Please understand that it was written way more upbeat than might be warranted for accuracy, because people having this transit need a slightly absurd upbeat way to look at things, to get through it easier. 😄

Dreams and ideals now become grounded. If well formed and realistic in the context of your life, they are made sounder, and steps are taken to manifest them as concrete reality. Otherwise, be prepared for some healthy disillusionment, freeing your imaginative energies for more practical ends. Either way, certainty is a theme of your thinking and wishing patterns right now. Your ideas of what is real, "how things are," "what is going to be," are keenly focused by your wishes, and tend to be rigid. This trait bestows a powerful ability to focus on a goal; and yet taken to its extreme, it also may limit your awareness of problem-solving options available to you, possibly leading to the emergence of private demons to haunt you: troubled mental states, frustration, suspicion, and despondency. Instead of tightening your attachment to preconceived ideas, why not make full use of your ability to make practical goals a physical reality?

IN BRIEF: Ideals and dreams are grounded. If sound, they are made solid, secure, real; otherwise, frustration and disillusionment. Security and certainty seem important to you. Personal demons and troubled mental states may emerge. You have more options that you think!