@kasper81 said
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@kasper81 said
"so you want to "be in" the astral scene as oppose to observing it? This is the difference between astrally projecting (yourself into the scene) and skrying."
This is true to a point. Skrying technically means "seeing" (and nothing more or less). In the Golden Dawn material it was called "Skrying in the Spirit" (Seeing in the spirit) and this can be viewed as different than "Skrying through a crystal ball." See the difference?
Otherwise, without that minor confusion and sense of elitism, your instructions where very good."
sense of elitism? Absolutley not. I respectfully ask yourself to examine the possibility that you are projecting your own flaws onto me............ again.
There are 2 types of skrying in the spirit as I explained yes: projecting and observing. There is a 3rd category : rising on the planes as outlined in Liber O i believe, but that, to me that is a way to practice one aspect of the proper skrying in the spirit namely the need to rise up, up , up."
With your edited version here, yes, now you see that "skrying" is not "opposed."
[Edit] and I notice now you used the word "proper." These are the words I find problematic with addressing someone who is asking for assistance. "Proper" (along with other things I've notice but have bit my tongue until now and further more) is of the nature of judgment and superiority.
There are many ways to "ascend the tree of life." What is proper depends on what we are really attempting to do.